Speaker size and soundstage

In front of or behind the speakers is fine although in my experience the instruments and stage tend to be behind the speakers but this is volume sensitive and will vary depending on the type of speaker you have.
If you like the experience you have with instruments imagining outside of the speakers then don't change anything. But, it is an aberration of acoustics and not a product of the reproduction process in 2 channels.
I suppose you can get this in a 5.1 system but I wouldn't know as I have never taken them seriously. It is really only useful for theater. Getting two speakers to work in unison is more than enough.  

@fstary,

"I suppose having a system sound like a grand piano in the same room does not mean the system is perfect in all ways, but that memory stuck with me as well."



As it should.

Most (ok virtually all) of the systems that I've heard had no chance of even getting close to start with.

Other genres of music can place serious demands upon your loudspeakers but few make their shortcomings as obvious as piano can.

For some speakers it's a risk not worth taking, as I once found out when one of midrange drivers began to make some strange noises when playing back some Glenn Gould.

No jokes please.

^^^ The "strange noise" probably came from Glenn Gould himself :-)

redwoodaudio274 posts06-05-2021 8:39pmOverall size of the soundstage, specificity/precision of the soundstage, dimensionality of the soundstage, scale of the soundstage are, in my experience, distinct and dependent on multiple variables including electronics, isolation, noise, room, speakers, etc.  The only one I’ve found to correlate with size of the speakers/drivers is soundstage scale (eg. musicians and instruments sounding larger or smaller).


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WEll yes, my system ina  room 2x's the size i have , 10x12 8 ft ceiling, would most likely grant the soundtage air to breathe, more open *larger stage*. 
Which is why I listen very near field and preamp vol never more than 9 oclock.
So yeah, like the only other way to grant larger sound stahe either small, mid or  extra large size rooms is via the best option, Yeah you know its comming, thats all I talk about these days is <<Sensitivity> 
You just KNEW it was  a comming.
Every time I notched up the sens values on the full range, (tried 4 cheap chinese FR's) each offered a  different soundstage size.
The lower the distortion = the sweeter the soundstage = more open.
Right now i am using the DavidLouis 4 incher as low mids= low highs. Its not bad, = you get what you pay for. 
= You are not going to get Voxativ quality ina  chinese clone at $200/pair, Not going to happen.
Livable? 
eh, maybe, I mean fatigue free for the most part. Sure beats all the other chinese FR and the Seas Millennium tweeter at $700/pair, thats for sure.
Its was a  a nice lil  experiementation in testing dif FR , I have no plans to ck out other chinese made FR, 
I'm going after the 
*Real Deal*
No not AER, out my budget, as the Thor upgrades  broke my budget at $1400.
The other *Real Deal*
Won;'t mention lab, as *best kept secret* til time comes when I upload  a  YT vid for you guys. 
It will be a  3 way.
Seas W18E001/dual+
Mystery driver+
Magnovox 1963 tweeter horn,
 which may be the best tweeter ever invented. = New is not alwasy better. 
If the mystery speaker performs highs with minimal roll off, I'll take out my fav Magnovox (pulled from Richard Gray's stash room collected over the past decades)  as being un-needed. 
Bottom line = higher you sgo up the sens scale = larger will be soundstage  in whatever size room you have.
Now why is this?
I know the answer only by experiementing with different sens speakers past few months. 
Everyone should buya  cheap FR chinese speaker and test in their system. DavidLouis has many options. Then you can list it on ebay at a  40% reduction. At least now you can compare to what you have. 
Now you can determine which FR on the high end you  can afford. 

corelli689 posts06-05-2021 8:30amSpeaker size has a lot to do with bass response

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I mean if you are running 12 or 15 inch woofers well then of course you will get rock solid bass, But I expect upper bass is not very musical, 
So witha  single SEas Graphene Excel W22 in a  24x24x12 inch cabinet you can get all the musical bass you need, close to sub bass effect. 
So true and not true about size cab makes all the difference.