Why is science just a starting point and not an end point?

You are irrational...

When you condemn barefoot walking you condemn it nevermind any theory proposing explanation, assimilating it to superstition in astrology and anything out of your mind...

This article of your neurologist criticize some theory pretending to prove barefootwalking benefit not the barefoot walking benefit itself... On the other end a scientist saying that science will never prove the benefit of barefoot walking by principle is not a scientist in my book...

He is more cautious than you anyway....

By god you seem to be gullible.

Yes i am credulous, and very skeptical at the same times in general...

Credulity being "A "and skeptical being " B",

My working brain go from A to B and from B go back to A, with some new ideas about a way to prove or disprove my belief...

It is called thinking...


Exemple: Faith healer....

I am credulous than i accept that it is perhaps possible.... It is "A"...

By "B" i doubt it but instead of rejecting the idea i keep his possibility in my OPEN mind....It is called going from B to A .... And times to times i have discovered very interesting fact about faith healing...Is it not better than your decree mentality?

It is not scientifically proven for me BUT very possible by my inquiring thinking process...There exist for example HISTORICALLY some event linked to some faith healer that really make us skeptic about the impossibility of faith healing...

True Skepticism is a sword with 2 sides by the way.....






« Why do you keep a rabbit feet in your pocket Groucho? Because it is the only way to keep rationality when you speak with a robot»- Groucho Marx dixit

Prof-
FWIW, I never misunderstand what you write. In this case I was attempting to open your mind a little & improve the performance of your audio system at the same time.   

You misunderstand.

This thread is about how science, and the scientific method, bares upon audio claims.

Another distortion for keeping your crusader agenda...

Read the OP stating question....

This thread is not your property , on the contrary the OP suggest wisely that known engineering facts ( i will reserve the name of science for other things) perhaps dont explain all there is in audio experience...

Then boxer is right and has a good perspective....He dont look like a crusader at all unlike you....

Me i am perhaps a crusader also, 😊against people who give lesson and label all audiophiles in the same bag because they dont use blind test...

Science is not first blind test but begins FIRST by anecdotal individual experiment, especially with a specific audio system in a very specific electrical grid in a very specific room with very specific pair of ears....

In an audio forum we exhange about INDIVIDUAL experiences.... Not about "scientific decree" mainly and blind test in particular....

Prof-
FWIW, I never misunderstand what you write. In this case I was attempting to open your mind a little & improve the performance of your audio system at the same time.

Thank you, but I prefer to allocate my money toward things that actually are likely to alter/improve the sound. There is no plausible reason it would change the sound, or any good evidence it does.

I get that you are trying to help, and no doubt now have the impression "Well, what a closed mind!"

But...Do you do everything anyone ever suggests you try? For your audio system, health, whatever? Or do you employ some critical thinking to sift where your time, money and energy are better spent?   That's all I'm doing.

But...Do you do everything anyone ever suggests you try? For your audio system, health, whatever? Or do you employ some critical thinking to sift where your time, money and energy are better spent? That’s all I’m doing.

It is a perfectly rational attitude for yourself...Congratulation!

But why imposing your scientism ascetic attitude to ALL here....

Because in an audio forum criticising ANY out of the norm experience and experiments if not blind tested first is no more rational.... It is a crusade...

By the way a schumann generators cost 10 bucks ....to experiment with it do not cause great lost...

And a shungite plate is also very low cost...

And i never bought ANYTHING over few bucks....

I enjoy a S.Q./ cost ratio out very high....Only basic science or experiment with some device which others claim to be useful: schuman generators or Helmhotlz devices, or minerals like Herkimer diamond and shungite... Or my own method to control vibrations with springs and other materials at peanuts cost....Great success...Peanuts costs....




Science is not a crusade against : God, astrology, homeopathy, magic, or barefootwalking and religion...Dawkins is no more useful than Randi....When science is a crusade it begin to mimic an ideology and transhumanism irrational faith and idolatry is not too far...

Science is a method of inquiring mind linked to experiments, not an ideology to be used in crusade with the blindtesting obsession....Science is really NOT a religion or a cult....For example science is not in any way linked to the cult of atheism or to the blind testing obsession in audio....

Like famously say Groucho Marx , keep a rabbit feet in your pocket to remind you of the necessary added healthy creative irrationality in your life but to remind you also of the unavoidable unhealthy "irrationality" in any human life....

Irrationality like reason come ALWAYS in 2 flavors...The right posology is a balance between the 2 flavors...

When there is no balance, reason mimic irrationality, and irrationality mimic reason...

To improve i recommend reading Lao-Tse, and Goethe....After that Ernst Cassirer a friend of Einstein....