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Get a load of this Deceptive add for a Gryphon Amp here on AG

So the title is  Gryphon Essence Stereo Power Amplifier Pure Class A 5 Months Old.

You can read the description for yourself.


I make an offer on the amp. Below is the reply I get from the Seller. Maybe its just me but this kind of selling should be BANNED on AG.  Selling Grey Market gear without putting any of it in the description. Total BS...and he isn't even the owner of the amp.  He's in California but says he's selling for somebody else in Massachusetts.



Thank you for your offer that I can accept.
I have some things to explain:
It's imported, from out-of -US distributor.
Gryphon designed it voltage interchangeable, manufactured 220-240V, then set up by distributor's technician to US 120V so you can just plug ( the power cord ) and play.
Gryphon's warranty is not transferable, made very clear in user's manual Page 25. But don't worry. Whenever in need of service, just send to LA and I will take all things ensuing.
If these are fine with you please let me know then I will accept to proceed.
Will ship to you from Massachusetts by the current ( the only ) owner.


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jond
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Ok I just finally looked at the ad a few things:
The seller speakerchuang has been here forever and has great feedback and is a verified dealer.


The ad states that his customer is in Mass and bought the amp from him.

It also states the amp was 240v converted to 120v.

So I don't see where nothing was disclosed that the OP is referencing?
audiogoing64
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It’s a little lacking in upfront transparency, probably to attract offers, but he DID tell you about the “issues”. He does have high positive feedback, so I’d let this one go as “just not interested” and move on instead of trying to create havoc from a vetted seller.
perkri
898 posts
 
Whats the issue?

The seller has been on AGon since 2013, has a 100% positive rating and regularly sells high end product. If you were concerned, you should ask admin to verify his ratings.

I fail to see the point of trying to create problems or raise unsubstantiated doubts about their integrity by posting this publicly...


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jjss49
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took me a minute to find the ad

as others have said, i don’t see a problem with what the seller posted - there is proper disclosure - nor his reply (if in fact that is represented accurately by the op) and his record here is extensive and perfect

so he is chinese, his english isn’t great, but it works well enough to communicate ... 192 positive feedback points, 100% positive, since 2013 -- that is no joke...

i am not sure why the public b*tch n moan from the op on this... if you don’t like his reply, don’t buy it... move on
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I’m new here, so grain of salt, but I do have a semblance of a brain and I frequently participate in buying and selling things online.

IMO it’s clearly mildly deceptive that none of this is disclosed in the ad-- these are clearly details that any buyer would want to know--and it’s good that the seller disclosed it in the reply followup. 

It’s unseemly to drag people through the mud but a little rap on the knuckles is justified here. Good post. I hope the seller changes his or her tactics.
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