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Magico A3 price increases 50%+

I have been doing a bit of research in my search for a new Loudspeaker upgrade .
since 2018 The Magico A-3 has gone up from $10k to $15k in 3 years That is dramatic .
and that doesnot even include the better feet they are a $1500 option . They are a good speaker but no longer the great deal they once were , and their Xover uses the low cost Average at best ,
Mundorf Evo capacitors, when they should have at least Mundorf Supreme , and Mundorfs cheapest $2 
Green resistors, the M-resist are only $13 retail  they get over $50% off them in a $15 k speaker going cheap? Having done Xover mods for years . If I find a good used pair ,I will use the Excellent VH audio Odam capacitors , and superb Path audio resistors which are noticeably better then even in their best speakers ,which use Mundorf supreme silver gold oil capacitors  which I have used several times  in the past.


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audioman58 OP
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Henry201 your garage builder -no comment ,  my point is 
having owned a Audio store and being involved personally 
with many  mods it  is just my opinion and knowledge base over 20 years  that the-speaker can be 
much better with a Xover upgrade ,nothing more . I am most certainly not stuck on Magico .I am currently involved with
a Marten upgrade that use exceptional Accuton drivers .
There are  many excellent Loudspeakers out there ,nothing more 
to be said.

henry201
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@audioman58
that the-speaker can be much better with a Xover upgrade
Not necessarily, see above vitussl101 case in point. I think that it’s an arrogant, misleading statement. I am sure that most, if not all designers spend a very long time deciding what goes into their products. There are many things to consider, and some parts “goodness” can be a liability. If one buys a speaker because he likes the way it sounds, one should let it be. The chances it can be improved are slim, and probably lower than the chances of degrading the overall sound.
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audioman58 OP
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Unless you have spent years and 1,000s of hours listening 
And comparing parts quality then you speak out of blind ignorance 
Period ,I will waste no more time On guys that barely can figure out how to hook up a cable .decisions are based mainly on compromises on average rule of thumb $25%  or less goes into the complete build the rest overhead and markup.,  ,that is why for example you are not going to put $1k into the Xover parts ,maybe 
now you can figure out why the speaker can be far superior $$.
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ozzy62
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@audioman58 

So @henry201 doesn't build or modify speakers, so that makes his opinion worthless? How arrogant of you. He has a valid point. I had a good friend who modified a perfectly nice sounding pair of Starsound Caravelles with every boutique part he could come up with. Completely ruined the sound of that speaker. Yes some speakers can be improved upon, but that's not the case every time. And you seem to think everything can be.

Sometimes it's best to buy a speaker that you love the sound of and not one that you really, really like, but hope to make better.
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danvignau
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     The Veblen effect is also called the OREO effect, because when the inventor of this cookie, Hydrox saw the efect on sales, the price was lowered.  To counter, OREO raised its price to make Hydrox seem less valuable.    Hydrox has no animal fat.  OREO uses lard and other animal fat, but because it costs more, People see OREO as better.     Many psychology experiments confirm this bias.  Jewelry pricing is the epitome of the use of this bias.
     Maybe the speakers will not actually sound better, but people will think they do. After all, how can a $10,000 speaker possibly sound as good as a $15,000 one?
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