Speaker set up and IRREGULAR rooms.
I came from a near perfect room setup and turned everything 90 degree so now one speaker is near a corner and the other is more in the open. At some point I stopped offering higher advice on cables and the like because I believed in the synergy of the room. You need to play with distances from the wall you do have. My left speaker is now a little farther out than the right. Treatment attempts will take some experimentation with eyes closed too. 95% of times our eyes are awesome but they can get in the way if you believe the symmetry is important. In the end there is greatness in audio and you will find the magic in the setup. Take your time and experiment as you can. Sometimes it's a little windy when you go fishing. Sometimes you want to put the gas pedal down but there are kids in the car. You need a long game approach (unless you get out the hammer and nails). Maybe put a large potted plant (not a pot plant, or maybe) behind the speaker to help it aesthetically. Can you put a lamps and chair there to help it look better? Work on toe in too. Greatness will prevail if you put in the time and go through the process. I'm not one to put more in the way of the signal, as mentioned above, but we all have different ways of getting there. In the end you are the only one that is listening so if you can find the groove (and aesthetics for family), great. I'm still a proponent of proper symmetry but I surprised myself with the magic I got with good gear in an asymmetrical setup. I don't have the time or interest to read about but I am curious if our minds begin to fill in some of this stuff too. One last thought on this is- I don't know how well your current speakers meet your priorities in relation the your room, but that's a whole different conversation. |
WAF is Important. WHEELS will solve things. 3 wheels, (no leveling needed, no wobble anywhere, and importantly: more weight per wheel than 4). Rear corner blocks, or a skirt (a bit above the floor) to prevent tipping. Tight axels, I use furniture grade dual wheel casters. Easy placement and toe-in alternates. I use one toe-in for single listener; alternate toe-in to get wide center when two listeners (aim right to left chair; aim left to right chair). 3 specks on the floor for easy re-positioning. Dining table for 4 or 5, no movement. for 6, push em back a bit, big holiday party, 3 leaves in the table, push em way back. 9th photo here shows bottom of speaker. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/9511 I put a block above the front wheels to raise the front, tilt them back, so the tweeters project to seated ear height, and, the angle of reflections off the floor and ceiling are altered. |
you could try a pair of these rollling plant stands just to prove the concept works for you https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C2CB2XB/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B08C2CB2XB&pd_rd_w=zdY63&pf_rd_p=5d846283-ed3e-4512-a744-a30f97c5d738&pd_rd_wg=mpQRW&pf_rd_r=QT72ZWEYMJT00AVCSJS9&pd_rd_r=b6e51be5-5846-4ba4-908c-d96bfc91f4b2&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExTFI1OE1QV01RQzJNJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTAxNzUwMkZGVzRMRzFITERDMSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTc1MjY5MVRMVVNDN1hLVVkyUiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbF90aGVtYXRpYyZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= |
@mijostyn Thanks for the info about the farther away the less I have to worry. Dali recommends not toeing these in as they do well off axis. I don't know about anyone else but 11.5 feet doesn't seem that wide and when you take away distance from side walls (wall) it really narrows the distance between speakers. The only way to overcome this is placing the right speaker past where the wall would be. @bjesien Thanks so much for the comment about distances from the wall. In my current arrangement I am unable to sit squarely between the speakers. I've been taught you want the speakers the same distance from the back wall but this effectively makes one speaker 2 feet farther away which of course makes one louder than the other. My concern if I don't have them placed asymetrically is whether bass response will be effected. @arcticdeath so in your opinion you still don't have then set up optimally or are you saying they're as good as it's going to get? |
