Black Ice(former Jolida Company)new integrated amp opinions


Hello,

Just wondering if any one has any experience with Black Ice's new integrated tube amps. In particular the F22 & F35 Jim Fosgate designs. Any input would be much appreciated.

Thanks


sagger
If the new models are an improvement over the Jolida branded items, they should be decent.

I had a Jolida integrated for a couple of years.  It weighed a ton, so I think they put the money in transformers and saved by using PCBs and cheap controls.

I used very good tubes in mine and I was very happy with it.  It stood toe-to-toe with my Cary Audio gear.

The only thing I didn't like was the controls felt like they were on a $100 black plastic box.
I recently purchased and Black Ice F35 integrated . Listening to it while my pass lab integrated is being looked at. I was surprised at the bass punch from this amp. It has solid state bass drive. I did change out the Tung sol power tubes for gold lion. All I can say is I do not miss my Pass lab amp. Not saying the Black amp is better, but I an enjoy is just as much as the pass. The soundstage and warmth is what really grab my attention. I am using the black ice with my Kef Lf50 metas, and the pass was using my dynaudio special 40. Really hard for a comparison. I will say the black Ice f35 is worth every penny. 
Have the Black Ice F360 hybrid preamp in my exercise room audio system.  I really like it.  It throws a big soundstage, nice spatial cues, with midrange liquidity and clarity.  A real winner piece of kit.

I purchased the Black Ice F35 with el34 tubes and it took around 200hours for the tubes and the amp to sound it's best. I love this amp much more than my Atoll and Kinki integrated amp. Warm,lush,transparent and dig really deep into the low frequency.

If they ever become available again, try new production Gold Lion KT88s in your F35. I prefer these over the Gold Lion Kt77s I tried previously.