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HiFi vs MidFi
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Differences between 2 relatively good but different amplifier, even between speakers, are most of the times in most of the cases, save for extreme difference in cost and engineering in some particular case, less important generally than the change from an acoustically uncontrolled room to a controlled room designed for a specific type of speakers and system... "Most of the times in most of the cases..." -- for the ignorant. But this is a forum of audiophiles who, um, haver heard about the importance of room acoustics, ok? And yeah, I think Doug knows all that stuff about how important the room is AND he knows that better gear is the other half of the equation. So do a lot of others. |
And yeah, I think Doug knows all that stuff about how important the room is AND he knows that better gear is the other half of the equation. So do a lot of others. My point is about what could help us to create an Hi-FI experience without investing big money... Many here says it is impossible at low cost...Mr. Schroeder say so....It is generally false...Save for extremely costly and rightfully embedded exceptional system...Then establishing a price tag scales common place characterisation is not the way to go.... And repeating common place facts about price tags has no meaning in acoustic experience... Is a Bernning ZOTL amplifier costing 6000 dollars is less good than a 100,000 dollars amplifier? it depend of the other gear equipment but mostly also of the way the room acoustic will be coupled to the particularities of the system... I will then let acoustic experience decide not price tag common place facts... And dont appeal to Audio forum knowledge against my point... My experience teach me already that most audiophile trust more price tag than acoustic science sorry.... I dont doubt a second the vast knowlewdge about gear of Mr. Schroeder... I doubt his general attitude of underestimating the essential in audio: acoustic experience.... Selling superior gear is not the same thing that giving advices about HOW to create Hi-Fi experience in our own room...Especially when the advices has no or very low cost to be implemented... By the way acoustic science is not sinonymus with only buying costly passive material branded name treatment... It is also designing active control devices specifically coupled to a specific speaker characteristic...This fact only is unbeknownst to most here....I know it, because i create one for myself....No one here teach me how to do it ....With discarded junk material... Anyway acoustician dont listen price tags advice but sound.... |
"Most of the times in most of the cases..." -- for the ignorant. But this is a forum of audiophiles who, um, haver heard about the importance of room acoustics, ok?i forgot to say that your post is a bit "haughty"... When i spoke using this expression ( most of the times in most of the cases) i spoke to and for most people here constrained by budget limitation first, way more than by their alleged ignorance of price tags scale... I was speaking to normal people here not to audiophile snobs... And for sure all people here know that acoustic is important .... But this does not erase the fact that they UNDERESTIMATED it completely in relation to gear price tag precisely because of marketing practice and reviewers encompassing all audio thread with their own "price tagging " scale, which scale evaluation is not debatable if i pick to Mr. Schroeder his own words .... Everybody here knows or is supposed to know also the importance of mechanical vibrations controls, and decreasing the noise floor level of the electrical grid of the house...But this does not erase the fact that this fundamental embeddings control necessary to reach Hi-Fi experience are also UNDERESTIMATED and called in a misleading way by most people here and in particular by reviewers : " tweaks"; that is to say secondary artefact in relation to the possible HiFi high end gear supreme experience... I debate this artificial snobbery about gear to insis on mechanical, electrical and acoustical controls, to be the way to audiophile experience for most... Then you mis-interpret my post for the business of criticizing me....Like usual ... |