HiFi vs MidFi

but the real hifidelity is inside the speakers.
No 2 speakers sound alike, All tube amps, pretty much sound the same to my ears.

And the acoustic control of a room count for nothing?

All tube amp sound the same? Ridiculous... an Atmasphere tube amplifier, a garage 1217 tube amplifier and a Berning ZOTL are the same for your ears?

No gear sound the same at all.... Be it speakers, dac, amplifiers...

Acoustic treatment and control designed for a specific speakers/system are the way to hifi....Not the gear in itself by itself alone....Electrical and mechanical controls are also mandatory...

Pick the speaker you want and associate it with the right gear and put it in a controlled room designed specifically for it and you will have Hi-FI...

Obsession with speakers or any type of gear is only that, obsession... This is right if you are an audio engineer this is called passion.... But to reach hi-fi we must know elementary acoustic and elementary mechanical and electrical facts for a rightful embeddings of the gear /system we choose...

There is no best amplifier, or best dac or best speakers.... Only different needs and trade-off....

Fidelity's definition is faithfulness to a cause by continued loyalty. No matter what level of fidelity you are at, if you do it for the music, you are on the right track.

@hilde45

when i scan replies to a given post, there are some usernames -- once i see them, i simply keep the page scrolling right past the jibberish, don’t even read em anymore

remember the old dilbert comic strips? "blah blah blah blah blah blah room treatment" ... and so on

good for our sanity and positive attitude to treat those similarly, i think  🙉

@jjss49 You're right. Sometimes I forget that a bot's gonna bot.

Even retailers realize there’s a difference, look at Best Buy for example… 

Mid Fi product is on the shelves for anyone to pick up and bring to the register in their audio portion of the store, displays usually covered in finger smears, not hooked up to anything, many times missing knobs, etc., and to some people that is their Hi-Fi.

What Best Buy considers Hi-Fi is located in their Magnolia Section…. not much help there either or hooked up but certainly better grade product than what’s in their so called audio department.

My opinion as well is, Mid-Fi product you can grab off the shelf, no real technical assistance provided other than asking you if you’d like to take out the store’s credit card, etc., and to some people, yes it’s their Hi-Fi.  Heck, I know people who think because they dropped $1500.00 on a Bose set up that they’re in heaven… Hey good for them.
Myself, I prefer steak over hamburger. I’ve heard those systems at friends and relative’s homes and while there enjoyed them as well while hearing them brag about their set ups. It’s kinda of like going to Olive Garden and expecting Italian food like your going to be served at true family owed Italian restaurant in Milan. Can Mid-Fi work?… Yes and we’re all guilty of once in a while grabbing a fast food burger. 

Hi-Fi to me is product not mass marketed where product design is not affected by how it’s sale will affect the company’s stock price, where decisions on product design are not made in the board room, it’s more about the passion of the company’s owners and employees. Maybe they only produce few hundred units a year, quality over quantity, where I could call and the owner’s themselves could possibly answer the phone and answer my technical  inquires, where I’d get immediate replies to emails, etc.

Hi-fi is more than just the sound, it’s the company’s who’s product you’ve purchased vetted their dealers, and not just created a step up line of products jammed with options and crazy displays to create a one size fits all type of product.  Hi-Fi owners usually have higher expectations with specific goals in mind that can only be obtained with higher grade equipment and supported with more technically knowledgeable sales and support staffs with similar mindsets and not an inexperienced customer service agent reading off cue card scripts. 

I have numerous set ups in various rooms and consider parts of my systems Mid Fi and other parts of my system Hi-Fi. There is a difference but enjoy them all.  
I just wish the hard core guys on this site would provide more guidance in this hobby with their experience of higher grade products to the Mid Fi’ers who now would like to move up to Hi-Fi rather than see it as an opportunity to tell people their set ups are crap. You have to walk before you can run, you have find what you like and build from there. Growth is best achieved if mentored and keep in mind, most manufacturers believe due to technology taking it’s toll on this industry, component audio is a dying market, so by scaring away newbies rather than encouraging it’s growth hurts us all who enjoy this hobby in the long run.