So like I said hard to explain. But I think we are trying to listen for those patterns that are "true" to the whatever it was, and then do something very demanding. We have to somehow put aside all the many different aspects that came before our system, because we can do nothing about them. But then focus on the aspects that come after, because that is our system and that we can do something about.i agree...
Learning to sort those out. One of the bigger keys to the kingdom
My only added point is our brain data base is heavily programmed to recognized timbre voices from all origin in closed or open space... Survival mode....
My experience is the same as frogman..
My experience has been that building a system that best reproduces unprocessed acoustic music allows processed music to sound best.