An interesting demonstration

I see my problem now, I did not buy the "Super Intelligent Chip".  Glad to see how it is light activated. (This from the manufacturer of the Brilliant Pebbles). I'm supposed to put the chip on top of the cd player. While the disk is inside, playing......

the CD player isn't really airtight or light-tight - it's actually a "leaky box" with many small openings and gaps in the chassis through which light can easily pass. The CD laser light reaches the Intelligent Chip by escaping through gap around the CD tray and fillingI  up the room. The Intelligent Chip's photons reach the interior of the player the same way, through the gap around the CD tray.

http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina64.htm

I dont like to mock people in their absence....

I dont like people who do so for fun...

it remind me of the schoolyard habit ....

When people could not argue with their brain or dont want to do so, they use other low means...

My best to you anyway....Have fun and i apologize for breaking the party....

@mijostyn 

Listen to a choir, pick out one voice then pick out another voice. Try and listen to them together at the exact same time. Your mind can bounce back and forth quickly between the two but you can not listen to both at the same time unless you ignore the individuality of the voices.

Kudos on your description of this difficulty. It captures something very real about the challenge of evaluating audio.

My initial approach to such events is to initially take them as single experience, which later turns out (on inspection) to have multiple parts. Scenic views come across this way, as well. Looking at a landscape, I don't go jumping around from one particular to another, but "take in the whole." Indeed, most of our experience of eating is exactly about the combination of flavors and not the individual flavors.

I guess my point would be that the experience of the combination can be as immediate as the experience of the particular; indeed, the experience of a particular which is embedded in a larger whole involves the mental act where we have to "prescind" or "abstract out" something which only then gets our selective attention. But in the initial moment, we experience (what we'll later call) the complex. But we experience it as a simple.

This point -- about the complex whole -- doesn't really defuse the difficulty you pose, because there again, we can *take* that whole complex in various ways, each time. (Is the landscape cheery? Is it plaintive? Is it intimidating? Etc.) So, how could we ever compare? -- that would be the challenging question.

I'd start the answer with the word "habit." I cannot hear a choir in a million different ways for the same reason I cannot see a staircase in a million different ways. I have habits of listening, habits of staircase maneuvering; habits of tasting. These habits become my bases of comparison; they allow me to compare one listening session to the next, and because I'm a self-in-society (and not a random self), I can gain insight from what you hear and perhaps hear it that way, myself. 

Looking at a landscape, I don’t go jumping around from one particular to another, but "take in the whole." Indeed, most of our experience of eating is exactly about the combination of flavors and not the individual flavors.

Great post....

I was saying to him the same thing in a post above about WHOLENESS ...

A take by the ear of a maestro on an aspect of musical orchestral sound is a "perspective" focused from a detail to the whole and from the whole to the detail...

Tonal Timbre microdynamic playing is a "perspectival information " between the properties of a sounding body and the other objects in resonance with him... We human can "see " music not only hear it...

Consciousness is a "learned" power by a spirit not a mere fixed ability mechanically reproducible which wait to be debunk...

I guess my point would be that the experience of the combination can be as immediate as the experience of the particular; indeed, the experience of a particular which is embedded in a larger whole involves the mental act where we have to "prescind" or "abstract out" something which only then gets our selective attention. But in the initial moment, we experience (what we'll later call) the complex. But we experience it as a simple.

Gestalt? Right? 

Long before the time we're composing our thoughts here (around 1/1/2 yrs of age) we've mastered the task of seeing the whole and not fixate on the parts. 

So what if we can't (or can we?) really, truly, and exactly differentiate two voices singing at the same time? We bask in the harmony and yet are able to discern individuals all the time even when they seem to compete for our attention.

Take a good listen to Lakme's Duo des Fleurs and tell me you can't distinguish between Sabine Devieilhe (coloratura soprano) and Maienane Crebassa (mezzo-soprano) at the same time. I can.

The mind works so quickly so as to render the argument that it's impossible to hear both rather silly. That's splitting hairs to the point of red herring territory. 

There is a lag in time with everything we do and yet we still catch balls, drive cars and bikes and some can even juggle. It's all done so fast that it's a non issue.

All the best,
Nonoise