After I pry myself from my wife arm and sit down with cup of coffee I see some poster here KDL with complex that call inferior to other. This one reason for so many power struggle and dumb rule where people behind 10 year boy wanting be girl in society and reason censor information and ultimate struggle for being in charge of political system and try align people at all cost but that greater issue than forum but it relate when people say some want more freedom and other want to let other not have freedom. I ask my wife about this post and she say maybe I too much man. I like toolbox idea and when I own site I get change like that done. Put post maker in driver seat not have to deal with people they don't want post.
Adding a “safe haven” forum for discussion of tweaks?
I think we can all agree that threads about tweaks like fuses, stones, mats, power conditioners etc. stir up all kinds of controversy, conflict and ill will.
Short of banning discussion of these controversial topics, is there another solution to this problem?
I got this idea from teo_audio’s comments about a solution implemented at Canuck audio on another thread:
“Canuck audio tames it by having a cable and tweak area for threads. Where any counter to the idea that such things are functional (in attempt or in analysis), is not tolerated.
Meaning.. threads where people discuss tweaks, or mods or cables and so on, if a naysayer posts there, and interrupts the discussion, in any way, they get their posts deleted. And...if the given naysayer can’t hold their tongue, after said deletion-ish warnings..... they will, rapidly, via any repeats in behavior, find themselves banned from the forum. They have to grow up, or get lost.”
You may not like parts of his description, but I think the idea has real merit.
I propose a new “safe haven” sub-forum, with some special rules, for the discussion of tweaks. These rules would ONLY apply to this specific sub-forum, the current rules would continue as they are in all other areas.
The special rules would be along these lines:
Posts that categorically deny the possibility of tweaks having any effect or value are not allowed.
Posts proclaiming tweaks to be “scams” “cons” etc. are not allowed.
Posts that directly state, or imply, that another poster is lying, are not allowed.
Posts that make absolute negative statements like “Science proves it can’t work.” are not allowed.
Posts demanding measurements, controlled listening tests etc. are not allowed.
Posts that express skepticism (without making absolute negative statements), ask tough questions, or request more information are welcome.
Of course, some who hold the above opinions may object, but they would still be able to express those opinions in all other parts of the forum, just like they always have.
What do you think?
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tsushima Really? Get A Grip 🤨
Great, There ya’ go. If you don’t like the way I handle the direction of my threads. If you think I cut too many posts, or leave too many counter-productive posts in; "you have the freedom of choice to not join. " "Exactly So!" Or If I think someone is posting too many unproductive comments I can cut a few and keep my topic on track and productive. Thanks for the help. Tim |
@mikelavigne made some great points that sum up what I see. Many of the most knowledgeable and experienced LISTENERS that previously contributed here regularly are around rarely or never, because they've tired of posts that detract from listening-based opinions, suggestions and questions. I abhor censorship and really don't want to go down the road of deleting opinions I don't agree with. The frustrating part of all the derailed threads is that most of the objectivists restate the same talking points over and over in threads where OP asks for insights from those who've listened to a particular piece of gear. Maybe one day I'll see a post where someone proves that they've studied the correlation between a sonic descriptor and a measurement with a large statistically signifcant population and low margin of error...then use that to perform perfect unbiased testing on all the sonic parmeters I'm interested in...and then they'll apply all that on a large statistically significant population A/B-ing the two tonearms I'm considering. Then they can tell me they proved A is better than B. Perhaps, I'll then take note of their recommendation. Maybe an "off topic" button that flags a moderator review after ## votes would help. Some sites move posts to start a separate thread rather than deleting it, where it makes sense. IMHO thumbs up and down don't really get the job done. Just read a sports site where all the rival fans vote up their own teams. It doesn't advance the original conversation. Cheers, Spencer
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Dear God 🙄 You seem to be struggling to comprehend the concept that an OP does not own a thread merely because they started it, On this forum once it is posted it becomes open to all members to comment upon within the rules already set down. Once more ... If you dont like the way this forum is run simply go somewhere where you do. |
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