Adding a “safe haven” forum for discussion of tweaks?


I think we can all agree that threads about tweaks like fuses, stones, mats, power conditioners etc. stir up all kinds of controversy, conflict and ill will.

 

Short of banning discussion of these controversial topics, is there another solution to this problem?

 

I got this idea from teo_audio’s comments about a solution implemented at Canuck audio on another thread:

 

“Canuck audio tames it by having a cable and tweak area for threads. Where any counter to the idea that such things are functional (in attempt or in analysis), is not tolerated.

 

Meaning.. threads where people discuss tweaks, or mods or cables and so on, if a naysayer posts there, and interrupts the discussion, in any way, they get their posts deleted. And...if the given naysayer can’t hold their tongue, after said deletion-ish warnings..... they will, rapidly, via any repeats in behavior, find themselves banned from the forum. They have to grow up, or get lost.”

 

You may not like parts of his description, but I think the idea has real merit.

 

I propose a new “safe haven” sub-forum, with some special rules, for the discussion of tweaks. These rules would ONLY apply to this specific sub-forum, the current rules would continue as they are in all other areas.

 

The special rules would be along these lines:

 

Posts that categorically deny the possibility of tweaks having any effect or value are not allowed.

 

Posts proclaiming tweaks to be “scams” “cons” etc. are not allowed.

 

Posts that directly state, or imply, that another poster is lying, are not allowed.

 

Posts that make absolute negative statements like “Science proves it can’t work.” are not allowed.

 

Posts demanding measurements, controlled listening tests etc. are not allowed.

 

Posts that express skepticism (without making absolute negative statements), ask tough questions, or request more information are welcome.

 

Of course, some who hold the above opinions may object, but they would still be able to express those opinions in all other parts of the forum, just like they always have.

 

What do you think?

tommylion

@mikelavigne made some great points that sum up what I see. Many of the most knowledgeable and experienced LISTENERS that previously contributed here regularly are around rarely or never, because they've tired of posts that detract from listening-based opinions, suggestions and questions. 

I abhor censorship and really don't want to go down the road of deleting opinions I don't agree with. The frustrating part of all the derailed threads is that most of the objectivists restate the same talking points over and over in threads where OP asks for insights from those who've listened to a particular piece of gear.

Maybe one day I'll see a post where someone proves that they've studied the correlation between a sonic descriptor and a measurement with a large statistically signifcant population and low margin of error...then use that to perform perfect unbiased testing on all the sonic parmeters I'm interested in...and then they'll apply all that on a large statistically significant population A/B-ing the two tonearms I'm considering. Then they can tell me they proved A is better than B. Perhaps, I'll then take note of their recommendation. 

Maybe an "off topic" button that flags a moderator review after ## votes would help. Some sites move posts to start a separate thread rather than deleting it, where it makes sense.

IMHO thumbs up and down don't really get the job done. Just read a sports site where all the rival fans vote up their own teams. It doesn't advance the original conversation. Cheers,

Spencer

 

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@toolbox149 

Dear God 🙄 You seem to be struggling to comprehend the concept that an OP

does not own a thread merely because they started it, On this forum once it is posted it becomes open to all members to comment upon within the rules already set down.

Once more ... If you dont like the way this forum is run simply go somewhere  where you do.

Plus there’s more. Since most everyone starts a thread sometime , it would make all of us moderators/monitors. As I have said, people used to be able to monitor themselves and had control enough of their own emotions that they knew how to be mannerly, polite & civil. Its hard to believe that ability has vanished in so many. We are the most advanced technologically, yet have less ability to control our emotions? Why is that I wonder?

Some people have difficulty respecting  the different views of others.  It is what it is.