Ridiculous assertions that someone is being ripped off or conned

@snilf 

Very well put. 👍

hce1: both excellent points. Insulting comments regarding someone else's expressed opinion are not constructive, and just plain rude. If I've ever been guilty of that, I apologize. And secondly, again yes: science begins with hypotheses to explain some observable datum, and proceeds to favor the hypothesis that best corresponds with further empirical evidence. "Revolutions" in science, as Kuhn shows, happen when some observation is anomalous, and can't be explained by the reigning paradigm. In other words: science makes real progress only when an observation is made that can't be scientifically explained. So the commitment many audiophiles have to acoustic phenomena that "can't be measured" may, in the end, advance the science of acoustics.

I wish i could had written your post, but i did not wrote it, and could not anyway to say it better than you....

There are two separate issues here. First, several of the comments conflate disrespectful and insulting comments with demands that personal observations be supported with scientific data and theory. There is never a reason to be rude in your response to a member's reported experience with a product, whatever you may think of that product. It's reasonable to ask for more information, but to deny the validity of the observation is unacceptable.

Second, many of the comments demanding evidence beyond that offered by the original post are based on fallacious understandings of the scientific enterprise. Underlying many of the comments from the naysayers is the assumption that only things that are well understood are valid scientifically. This simply is not true. Scientific inquiry often begins with anomalous observations, outcomes that are not understood. In these cases, the scientific enterprise is optimized when we strive to find the causal path that explains heretofore mystifying observations, not when we dismiss the observations as invalid. The tendency among the "technocrats" and "scientists" in these discussions to dismiss anomalous observations only serves to constrain scientific progress. Better to accept, evaluate  and dismiss after detailed analysis 10 faulty observations than to dismiss without consideration one valid observation. That is, our understanding progresses when we open our minds to possibilities we can't imagine, not when we dismiss out of hand observations of which we don't approve.

May the audio gods grace your ears.

@tommylion     

"do you think it's the only acceptable one, that all others are offensive and must be suppressed/censored/eliminated "    

No offense, but aren't the changes you wanted to institute, just that.    

Yes I see this before. I also see where small group guys get stiffie over products and fall in love like bunch of teen girls and nonstop defend product and tell people that don’t like it that it must not be broke in or have wrong cable or vibration not right etc. soon you find they all sell and forget about product like old hag getting rid handbag. These guy need attention to be right more than logical. Lot of idiot here because they sit on bottom all day.

^That^ is nicely done.

It’s pure psychology.

Suppose someone just shelled out $6000 for a 100 gram can of rhino horn powder because he has a firm belief in it’s aphrodisiac powers. He’ll be happy with the purchase.

Others, who never tried rhino horn powder themselves, may warn him he’s being scammed. And yes, he may think that annoying because he’s perfectly happy with his purchase. And maybe it even worked, that’s the power of our mind. And if it didn’t, he’ll probably never admit it ... he’ll still write raving reviews.

How bad is it that some rational thinking people doubt the use of rhino horn powder because it’s totally unclear if and how it works and it has never been scientifically proven?

I know, I know ... even if things can not be scientifically proven or can be measured, we still can hear differences in audio ’quality’.

Just thinking about the Rhino ’orn is doing the trick.

But Mrs say, "Go play with cable, leave me lone" 😘