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poetry is crafted to escape the narrow confines of reality

There is a "truth " in this claim...

But it lack from this claim the other creative part which reveal poetry is not merely just an escape of reality but a creative way to reclaim it on higher grounds...

Poets co-create the "whole" reality, many scientist will only peer into in "parts"....

Save some great scientist like Goethe or DaVinci or Kepler...Or the unknown Newton, alchemist and biblical scholar with his complete works in latin most of it unstranslated in English...Swedenborg is bashed nowadays as a mystic, a poet, but he was on par in Science knowledge with any geniuses of his times and was the main scientific scholar of his country in almost all fields which matter for the state and the Swedish Queen...

Think about that...Anyway language mechanisms itself when gauged are so complex and deep, like an unconscious thinking preparing the ways for consciousness to speak of itself, so much so for me that one of the greatest experience in my life was a beginning of understandiing of grammars and metaphors... On par with number theory and geometry and music and acoustic for me in pure potential ectasy ...Goethe wrote about colors and plants and animals morphology with the same look which come from him to me...

Very few people are conscious of the deep "grammar" powerful expressive and discursive mechanisms revealed through thought process and expression ...Most people dont know that language simultaneously work on 2 levels polarly synchronized in long term history time and at the level on micro seconds time in the brain...Level one is the prosaic surface level where words are put into a sentence, second level is the "poetic" deep level where words itself are created...

Poetry is like number theory; no sane person pretend to "understand it " save Ramanujan,Grothendieck and Archimedes, all poets and mystics or supreme artist...For poetry we must ask Shakespeare or Goethe or Rumi who else?

Without vision renewed, there is no understanding, only an hallucinative habit call "everyday life"...Which we may sometimes escape with " bad" poetry or worst "virtual reality" A.I.

I will stop here....

Poetry is the music of print.

If every single one of us was a tweak. Where would the entertainment come from?

We all know that deep down we come here to get a good laugh--or whatever visceral reaction we’re looking for when we aren’t using music like the emotional-support junkies we are. Some come ready to fight (Stravinsky?); ready to pacify (Satie); ready to confuse (early Ornette). Without the electricians, we tweakers would become mainstream and only have to fend off the inevitable accusations of meth use.

I for one would really miss reading the opinions of the electricians. If we convince one of them to try a cable upgrade--it’s a win/win.

Poetry is the music of print.

Good point! and good metaphor!

But dont forget that poetry originate with the cristallized metaphor of each words in the gesturing expressing body and not only from the mouth...

Poetry is ORAL experience FIRST, written poetry is a derivation...

I will stop here...

We must study much the deep transformation of men from oral culture to written one and after that to alphabetic revolution...The print revolution come only after these 2 older and deep revolutions...

A.I. is only a small derivation of the first revolution: from oral to written world...

We think A.I. is a Big revolution in itself and not only a consequence...But it is only a consequence...

In the same way the representation we have of  the music experience go on the same road and reveal itself in the same way though the same revolutions than language ...

It is so because history of consciousness manifested  in any fields  partake to consciousness itself....The way we spoke about something, willing it or not, participate of the thing itself in a negative or positive way at the same time...It is always  relative to a chosen partial  perspective...

@dabel

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