Update From Ron New Day Record Covid 19 Battle

I hate threads where anti-vaxxers show up with their sneering certainty about all things scientific.

I'm not spouting off to anyone about my pro-vaccine beliefs (founded 100% on science & extensive reading, not to mention common sense and an unwillingness to die unecessarily). So please, whenever you get the urge to post vapid, hostile anti-vaxx garbage--DON'T.

 Yes sir, we obay your command, sir. 
 

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@glory

I’m not sure you needed the emoji at the end. I knew what I had read

@artemus_5

But i can’t imagine freedom spreading or even surviving when we wish death on someone with whom we disagree.

On that we definitely share common ground. A lot of animals on the other side of that fence however.

I've spent 4 1/2 decades in the Pharma world - still in it - including many vaccines like Flu and Smallpox. There are no "conspiracies" that I've ever seen. Like corporate America in general, the motivations of companies range from heartfelt desire to help people to unbridled greed (like the pharmabro clown).  The latter, except in very rare instances (e.g. branded companies colluding with a generic manufacturer near patent expiry) makes the idea of the companies colluding mostly laughable. FDA reviews and approves vaccines, Fauci is not involved in any way with that.  And once you've seen a few dozen actual clinical trials, the anecdotal claims of wishful thinkers pretty much laid bare the folly in correlation being used as causation.

Anybody remember Laetril?

rvpiano i know for a fact that you are an honest person in all meaning of the words..

Please dont be offended if i dont want to answer a very complex question with only few words that will be only sources of misunderstanding between irrational warring political groups here...

By the way i am not in conspiracy theory...No need for that to explain and understand why technological power and greed has steward humanity in a crisis...

i read philosophy and science and i can assure you without conspiracies facts ,true or wrong, that i could for example describe why all history of philo and science through the nominalism phase in the 13 century lead us to this crisis...No need for right wing or left wing american propaganda...pure historical science teach us WHY there exist a worldwide crisis... This was already partially explained by thinker like Goethe and Cassirer after him...

This health crisis is not different than the crisis in our understanding of acoustic for example... What is a sound? What is human body health? Why we forgot or hide what it is and what it was...Why do we change our idea about sound and body and what are the consequences?

But i hope that you will understand that a 10 pages post explaining the parallel between the "sound" question in science and the health crisis now, will be a useless enterprise here..

In a word no, Biden dont conspire to kill Americans or to control americans, it is an old man thats all... .... For the rest i cannot go further here about that crisis for the time being especially in this insane thread...

My deepest respects for you....

Mahgister,

I’m still not clear.

Is vaxxing a means that the government has to exert control over the population?

To what end besides saving lives?

I personally I belong to neither party....I vote for who ,I want to....that's our right....I had my shots and booster shot.I had cancer Grist  cancer in 2018.i should of died and didn't so.i got my shots....every year I had a flu shot....I'm a personal chauffeur, I had 6 clients ,No one wants to go to plays, or concerts or a night on the town....this coronavirus has cost me plenty....all i hear is ,stories and stories and more stories....most of the people who died were either old or not in the best of health  and that's a fact...Good luck to Ron and his family....