Nobsound springs - load range


I want to try out the Nobsound springs as damping footers (mainly under my mono blocks and my streamer). I ordered a first set of them and now I wonder about the amount of springs to put in for different weights of equipment.I remember one post that said it works best when 50% compressed (was it @millercarbon?).

I measured the compression of the springs, it takes ~2.5 kg per spring to compress it to 50%. Based on 50% compression target, this yields the following sweet spot configurations (only stable ones, total equipment weight):
- 3 units, 3 springs each: 22.5 kg
- 4 units, 3 springs each (or 3 units, 4 springs each): 30 kg - 4 units, 4 springs each: 40 kg
- 3 units, 6 springs each: 45 kg
- 3 units, 7 springs each: 52.5 kg
- 4 units, 6 springs each: 60 kg
- 4 units, 7 springs each: 70 kgLoad can be considerably higher than expected (somewhere I read about 36kg, which is presumably for 4 units).

Any comments?What about ~10 kg streamer, seems to be too light to compress the springs enough? Does anyone have experience with Nobsound springs under light equipment like this?
Based on your experiences: Would you even dare to put an 80kg floor standing speaker on Nobsound springs?
hm9001

Right. Looks like there is no easy way out. I will do it by ear also. Not easy since my amp is quite heavy and it’s quite a chore to move the footers in and out.

That may explain why I felt the sound was better yesterday when the springs have less compression

 

Thanks for the advice.

I'm curious about this idea of using foam ear plugs with the Nobsound springs.  I assume you roll the earplugs small and insert them in the middle of each spring?  Or is the idea to put them in the holes that don't have springs in them?

And is the theory that it further damps vibrations or that it provides lateral stiffening?

FWIW I have Nobsound springs underneath my 135 lb Moabs, 7 springs in the heavier front corners and 6 in the rear corners.  It works like a charm and even though A/B testing is impossible I would say there was some improvement in detail.

In the spring and there are few different colors to. Technicolor. :-)

I'm at 390 lbs before a 2" base a 2" bronze cap (optional) and a rear cabinet modification.

Hovering at 500 lbs. I'm going with pods in three spots. The main speakers and the  TT stand. Air Ride is sure looking good.. :-)

Regards

@ryder

I am using them without experimenting with removing springs (though thanks to this informative thread, I will-eventually) and my system sounds amazingly better than when I was using Machina Dynamica cryoed and heavy duty springs

 

As to experimenting, if you have any kind of blocks to replace each of the full set of 4 spring sets, removing them one at a time, will make it a lot easier.

Experiment with not putting them under the existing footers

hth

 

Some thoughts based on my experience meanwhile. I have Nobsound springs under my Streamer/DAC, my heavy mono blocks (44 kg each) and my Powerfilter unit. My initial attempt with the DAC (~12.5 kg) was with 3 units with 3 springs each, as this was the least number of springs per unit that I thought was stable in itself. This results in a situation where the Nobsounds don't  compress much. The hearing result was intimidating: added sharpness, less resolution and less dynamics. 

I then tried to use less springs and ended up with 4 units with 1 spring per unit. At least for the 12kg DAC this is still stable enough. On one side (where the transformers sit), I have two springs. In total this results in a situation where all units are compressed about equally and about 50% (gap of the unit compared to uncompressed, by rough eyesight). The acoustic result is great and I kept the springs since then: Instruments appear to resonate more freely, there is more room, and bass apears to reach deeper. The number of springs corresponds nicely to the rule of thumb mentioned in the OP (2.5kg per spring). For me this is helpful to determine at least a starting point for finetuning by listening.

For the monoblocks, the result of adding the springs is very similar and synergetic to the DAC. Under the power filter, the effect is the least. I would not claim that it would withstand a blind test, but I kept the springs there for optical reasons.

I really like the ideas of dampening the springs with foam ear plugs and/or PTFE tape. I will definitely try (on my DAC first).