Introspective of this forum: "Does the Audiophile Community Have a Promlem?" I Say yes!!!


This article is so insightful to this forum and the toxicity in the community. (My Opinion)

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?

I know I have contributed to the toxicity here and will try to be a better citizen. Hopefully some will read this and see they are part of the problem (LOL)

Some will not and continue to play their roll as the Toxic Avenger.

https://www.ecoustics.com/articles/audiophile-community-problem/

 

There is a particular board on a specific forum that was hidden from the outside world because of how horrible it was. Where personal politics and racism was the norm 24-7 and one member even committed suicide after months of abuse. We watched him fight with other members on a daily basis and get a lot of heat back. He was fine most of the time when dealing with him on a individual basis but then he descended into some really horrible commentaries about race and certain countries and he went down the rabbit hole into some dark places.

Websites like ASR hold zero interest for me because a lot of the users are just there to be “right” and make others feel very small because their views don’t align with certain points of view.

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And a Merry Christmas to oldhvymec and his family, including his chickens, ducks, turkeys and whatever the heck else he’s running naked with 😜

JD

i see rude, pompous, arrogant, knowitall comments all the time online. not just in hifi forums, everywhere. would imagine that most everyone does. i figured out a long time ago not to pay them any mind. imho, the truth is that some people get off on the idea that they know X better than everyone else. unfortunately for them, it’s all a fantasy - actual experts and others who can speak with real authority on a given subject aren’t usually jerks about it.

as far as the sexist stuff you see from time to time, it's just sad. the most serious record collector i know is a woman and it is an absolute joy to watch the sweaty knowitall middle aged vinyl freaks lose their minds when she pulls out the rare stuff at dj night. talk down to women if you want to, but try not to cry when they embarrass you 

but fwiw, i do think it’s worth drawing a distinction between "rude a-hole" and "extremely opinionated old hifi guy." i’ll give you an example as to why -i recently answered a craigslist ad about some rare sansui gear. the guy who listed it called me up 5 minutes after i sent the email and proceeded to talk my ear off about everything hifi for the next hour. in the course of his lecture (that’s what it felt like) he told me exactly why he thinks my present system sucks, how i was misled, why he thinks amp x and loudspeaker y are superior in every way, and blah blah blah. but here’s the thing: i wasn’t offended! i just remember thinking ok, here’s a guy, a stranger, who’s really into this thing, has been for as long as ive been alive, and who’s gone way deeper than i’ve been. along the way he developed some extremely rigid, but extremely well informed opinions. i appreciated that conversation very much. now, if he had talked to me online like he talked to me on the phone, i could have easily misread his passion (totslly palpable and infectious, in the tone of his voice) for an extreme arrogance and ignored him completely. i'm glad i didn't - he was dropping a lot of knowledge on me and it was terrific. i still like my present setup though. 

i also think it’s possible that the surplus of extremist-type debates in hifi world could be a sign that more and more people are getting into this thing. if it’s anything like catholicism, it’s always the converts who are craziest 😂, but they’ll mellow out in time

Might also just be the nature of forums and message boards. I've been on ones for all kinds of subjects and people will start arguments about just about anything, some more than others. People can say a lot of things anonymously that they wouldn't say in person.