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Coincident Statement Line Stage vs Jadis JP80MC vs EAR 868PL vs Aesthetic Janus

I had another thread asking about different preamps. I then bought Coincident Statement Line Stage and ModWright LS100. Both of them are very good in its own right. The CSLS is very transparent and engaging. The Modwright has very good tone. After debating for a long time, I finally sold the Modwright. But that tone can’t leave my head. While the CSLS sounds excellent in my system right now, I always wonder if there is one preamp in the world that has quality of both CSLS and Modwright LS100, and that would be prefect.

After I sold the Modwright, I upgraded to better cables and power cords. I also upgraded to the Psvane WE101D, but unfortunately, one of the tube turns white in less than a month, and I am in the process of getting warranty replacement. I also upgraded to APL DAC. I feel I maximized what I can do trying to get the tone, but it is still not quite there yet, but very close to what I want. Therefore, I am trying to see what other options I have. Another challenge is that I listen to vinyl 20% of the time, and I feel my current MC phono preamp doesn’t match with the CSLS. So, instead of trying another phono preamp, I am wondering if I will get better synergy to find a preamp that also have a good MC phono built in. But I am opened to suggestion that doesn’t have phono.

I am interested in the following:

1) EAR Yoshino 868PL

2) Aesthetix Janus

3) Jadis JP80MC

Does any of these has the same level of transparency and as engaging as the CSLS, and on top of that, have the tonal density of Modwright Ls100?

 

thanks in advance.

 

 

gte357s
sns
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Seems to me Coincident not your issue in the least. You like your digital, analog your problem. While I've not heard Alnic, presume it on warmer, lower resolving side. 

 

BTW I have Modwright swp 9.0se, the ph9 is updated swp with separate power supply. My analog setup isn't up to digital in resolution, transparency. Running Techincs Sp10Mk II completely refurbished in custom plinth, Jelco TK850L with Denon 103R.

 

Don't know your cartridge, but I saw one review claiming it crude and unsophisticated. If this true, try another cartridge, I'm in similar position with analog and my top two cartridge replacements are Audio Technica ART-9xa and Lyra Delos, research those two, this alone could be satisfactory.

 

The failure rate on Linalai Elite comes from initial production, supposedly, they have reliability improved with latest iteration. Grant Fidelity has latest production. I'd  still go with the Elite solid plate, nice upgrade over Psvane.

 

So, if it were me, I'd do both Linlai and better cartridge. I don't think Alnic your problem. Coincident linestage is NOT the problem here. If you insist on selling I have buyer ready to go.

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charles1dad
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@sns 

So, if it were me, I'd do both Linlai and better cartridge. I don't think Alnic your problem. Coincident linestage is NOT the problem here. If you insist on selling I have buyer ready to go.

I am in agreement with this synopsis. OP your digital sound is terrific via your comments. Replacing the CSLS would be moving backwards. It possesses superb sonic purity and is a genuine upper tier line stage.

Best wishes 

Charles

 

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charles1dad
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@gte357s 

I think the main determining factor is, am I satisfied with the digital rig now.  I think I am pretty satisfied.  The music is just flowing in the room.  It is very live like.  This is the strength of the CSLS and confirmed by many others in various posts.

Yep! 😊

sns
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Charles and I both totally agree on CSLS, it is keeper and will never be the cause of some unwanted coloration. Just real honest sound quality, a reference component, if you need spice and flavor, add elsewhere.

 

 

gte357s OP
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@sns @charles1dad 

In my digital rig, while CSLS is not 100% perfect, but very close to.  I wish to have a bit more tonal density or weight in the music.  I guess I can try further on cables and tubes, or even match with other power amps.  Power amps initially is not in the option list because I already have two - Coincident 211 and Audio Note Kit interstage 300B.  Jumping to a different preamp seems to be a more risky move.  I almost feels that airy / open / transparent versus warm / tonal density are at two ends of spectrum; one increases than the other decreases.

As you suggest, maybe I should focus on changing the vinyl rig.  I feel the Allnic 1202 and CSLS is in the same category that is open / airy / transparent.  That’s why it actually sound pretty good after I added a Schiit EQ to add more low frequencies, it doesn’t take away the openness and transparency.  I didn’t make the move to the Modwright PH9 due to a similar concern that, I am afraid it will lose the openness and transparency with the trade off of added bass and warmth.  But it seems it is still a less risky move than changing the preamp.
 

Changing cartridge is a good suggestion, maybe I should look into that.  Yes, the comments on the Denon H5LC is mixed.  It is sold only in Japan, so not too many people know.  I compared it with other MM and MC cart in the $1000 range at my friends place and the H5LC sounds the best.  To upgrade, I think I need to get something in the $2000+ range. 
 

 

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