Soundstage depth how to improve? Shootout
Yes, soundstage depth behind the speakers, how can we improve this, and what equipment is most important for this?
Deeper speakers have more sound depth?
Toe-in speakers makes it worse?
Has tube quality something to do with it?
Cables not, that is a fact!
Combination/match preamp/amp?
Distance speakers from backwall have impact, that is also a fact!
Before I had a unison research sinfonia integrated(2×ecc82+2×ecc83 +4×6550) and the depth was much better, the depth behind the speakers was about 6 to 8 foot behind the speakers by estimate.
Now I have a Coincident statement line stage mk2(2×101D) with triode corporation trx-m300(2×310A+1×274B+1×300B’s) amps, and it is maybe half that??
The difference is almost 20k$.
Shoot me, I don’t know....
Speakers: living voice obx-rw2
Digi: bryston bda2 + bdp2
My soundstage create also imaging filling the room in some recordings more and in some other less, and an intimate impression like in my 7 headphones and better...I will neverr use them anymore...The sound is near me like with an headphone but in the room out of my head and disconnected from the speakers complketely... If there is any connection between the sound and the speakers, your room is not under control... Simple... Acoustic is Queen and key... |
@klappertjedundas - what are the dimensions of your room? How far are the speakers from the wall (behind the speakers) How far away from the listening position is the wall behind the listening position RE: your statement -
By that - Do you mean - you believe cables will not impact image? I’m just wondering, because my cables have made the biggest impact to the imaging in my system - much more than anything else - for both digital and analogue components. But I had to get the right cables :-). So I am also curious to know - what cables are you using? Cheers - Steve |
My room almost sounds symmetrical, means the soundstage is left and right way outside the speakers, depend on recording but sometimes about 4 foot. Q-sound recordings are also 90% symmetrical and completly left and right of me, almost behind me. Vocals are between the speakers, a bit behind. Instruments and vocals on left or right speaker are little forward. With a choir in a church or an Orchestra I was used to hear(with the Unison Research Sinfonia) it mostly behind the speakers also wide, you could hear the room or church room in the recording like a big cloud. Now that is quit flat, not behind not forward, wide yes! I like live performance a bit upfront and choir/Orchestra a bit with room behind. The Unison had a deeper, but absolute no wider ss, and is a bit darker sounding but very comprehensive, but not as detailed. Give me warmth, musicality, live, micro/macro dynamics😁. Cables ac are jps power ac+ for amps and cardas golden reference for pre and jps the digital ac for dac. Links are PhantomCable gold and Nordost Frey2...all rca. Speakercables are PhantomCable gold. The frey will go...too detailed and not comprehensive and musical enough. Ac is clean, not much around here...small village. Treatment I will do. Headphones is a good startingpoint for people who want to start the hifi hobby, you learn cheaply about a lot aspects about sound. It safes a lot $$ in the end.
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