China built tube amps


Well I had an interesting conversation today. I contacted a large dealer and let him know I would like to buy a certain integrated tube amplifier that is made in China. I was told he wouldn't sell me one. He said they are all junk.  Prima Luna, Line Magnetic, Cayin, etc, etc, he said forget it. If you want a tube amplifier buy an American or European built unit that can be serviced.

So, I am new to valve amplifiers and I want to try one to understand what they're all about and sort of get my feet wet with tube rolling etc. I don't want to spend a lot of money at first which is why I was looking at Chinese built integrateds. So my question is, without getting into any particular brand other than what I have already mentioned, what is your experience with Chinese built tube amps? As a whole are they reliable? Am I wasting my money if I buy one according to this dealer? I have to admit I was rather taken aback by how adamant he was. Thoughts anyone?

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@hifijones Do you think one of those self learning remotes could be substituted? I too had Chinese dac remote go bad, in my case I found bad solder joint, reflowed, good to go. This only failure I've incurred with Chinese products.

 

And it is possible that one of these unfamiliar Chinese brands may in fact be good quality. Again, open up and examine.

 

And oh, by the way, I built a Dynaco clone from kit some years ago, many Chinese parts in that build, and all kit builds for that matter. If one is intransigent on buying Chinese, they should remove all Chinese built parts in everything they own, see how you like your life now. And that dealer should get out of audio business, he's selling Chinese products, just ignorant or in denial.

 

There is and always has been much injustice in this world, and from every quarter. Moral certitude about these issues is inherently hypocritical in human realm. Faulty rationalizations need be practiced in order for one to not see themselves as part of this system of injustices.

Exactly. Good luck buying a cell phone trying to avoid Chinese built products. Is there a single phone that doesn’t have Chinese products or a Chinese build in it? I think not. Hypocrites.

For me it’s primarily a moral issue: When was the last time we had a dictatorship putting millions of people in concentration camps because of their ethnicity??

There are a lot of native Americans raising their hands right now.

All the best,
Nonoise

@hifijones  how do you know it is the remote controller problem?

It might be the receive sense or any other problems in the machine itself. Double check and confirm before next step.

 

@sns

I could save some $$$ and buy a programmable remote but that’s not how I roll. Besides if I ever decide to sell the CDP I’ll need the OEM remote in working condition.

@runwell

The open/close button on the remote still works so it’s not the sensor. The tech who’s going to fix it placed an order for multiple circuit boards for these remotes from LM so it’s a known problem. I thought I might be able to disassemble it and clean the circuit board & buttons. But the LM remotes don’t use carbon-coated rubber that is commonly used in other remotes. They have individual tact switches instead. I could have the tech send a circuit board to me but if I muck up the installation then I’m back to square one.