About users with hidden agendas

He ain't no gentleman.

Not many of us left now.

@astolfor said

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"This is down to set up, something you can quickly ascertain by looking at a photo"

This is another laughable nonsense.

How in the world can anyone ascertain a setup from a picture? Really? Do pictures now position you in a room and allow you to carefully listen the room’s acoustic signature and how well the speakers are positioned relatively to the listening position?

I wander what despicable assault @ted_denney will come up with🤣 to defend this nonsense 

PS: for how long one does something has relative relevance on knowledge, one can be doing something for very long and doing it wrong all along. “

Yup …

"This is down to set up, something you can quickly ascertain by looking at a photo"

This is another laughable nonsense.

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100% PICs are the place to start. LOOK before you speak. I see once again the cart is before the horse. Pictures tell you everything about a system. THEN you rest your mouth and ears and listen..

I just posted that on Monday, I helped a buddy after 5 years of messing around. 4 hours later he was happy after 5 years of poor SQ. 2 floor to ceiling silk curtains, 2 3 x 4ft panels, a large thick oval rug, placement and I repaired the great pair of cables he bought. I know I own the same cables and his speakers, I use the same type.

I had listened two times in 6 or 7 years to his set up.

We did everything the way I always do it, not the way he does it. BINGO! ALL from a picture and a listen 5-7 years ago..

If I couldn’t hear a problem, but I’m hearing the same complaint from the customer I should put my past experience to work, not reinvent to wheel. It’s not life or death if your off a little bit either.

After seeing ENOUGH set-ups over the years you know what tools to bring with you, to the job site.

Explain how what Mr Denney said is any different. He knows by looking... HE BETTER know by looking after all theses years.. Are there exceptions seldom.

I’m afraid instead of revealing a flaw in his thinking, you have exposed a rather limiting flaw of your own...

To much reading and not near enough doing.. 20/80 rears its head again.

20% of the people do 80% of the work the other 80% (like you two) talk about it..

Thanks once again for the professional answer and skipping the bla bla bla. Mr. Denney. You need a GOOD PR man. (This time it’s free) :-)

I’m very good at picking my nose, EVERYONE can relate to that right..:-)

agree with @oldhvymec 100%

experienced hifi enthusiasts can look at pictures of a system setup in room and can spot issues quickly, there are elements of good and bad in room set up can be violated, but always at the cost of getting the best possible sound

not a substitute for being there, but photos can be very very informative as a lead in, and lead to numerous relevant and good suggestions or ideas of how improvements might be gotten