Those who seek to deny access to information


Like many/most here, one of the main reasons I frequent audiogon is to gather information. I am looking for ways to enhance the enjoyment I get from listening to music on my system. The information most valuable to me comes from those who share their actual experience with products that I am interested in, but have not heard in my system.

The audio community is a diverse one, with many opinions, ideas and perspectives. Many of them differ from mine, and that is fine. Those who disagree with me are free to make posts and start threads about whatever they choose. This doesn’t bother me, I am free to choose what I read, and what I don’t.

What does rile me up up is deliberate attempts to deny me (and others) access to the information that I value. There are some here who repeatedly seek to disrupt, sidetrack, derail, and shut down conversations about topics and products that trigger them. They do not contribute any useful information or experience to the discussion, and make disparaging comments about things they have zero experience with. They are bullies who mock, ridicule and provoke those who use, make and sell certain products. They seek to stifle any discussions about, and especially positive opinions of, the products and people they clearly have a vendetta against.

They can start their own threads, and talk about what a fool I am all day long, I don’t care. Their deliberate and repeated attempts to deny myself and others access to the information we value, however, are intolerable.

tommylion

You should only comment on what you have personally heard

This is very funny! That does not prevent you one bit from posting non-stop for things you never heard.

If we can get one factual post or measurement with a cable or fuse, that would do a lot more to convince me

Are you sure? Please define "factual post". Does sharing one’s experience of owning and using a product count? Also, nobody is here to convince you or anybody on anything. I for one couldn’t care less about convincing you.

 

What does rile me up up is deliberate attempts to deny me (and others) access to the information that I value. There are some here who repeatedly seek to disrupt, sidetrack, derail, and shut down conversations about topics and products that trigger them. 

I have to agree with you. I have seen a discussion where the OP asked about a certain product, and a few posters sidelined that product and started discussions on a totally different product. Sad situation.

But I don't think anyone denies to provide information - in fact of late they provide over information - which might be completely irrelevant to the original post. I think based on this alone, someone started another thread that started doubting if people have "agenda" when they make posts or start a thread. It's an open forum and things are bound to happen. If the posts stay relevant, then that would be the best approach.

@holmz If we can get one factual post or measurement with a cable or fuse

With a little bit of digging there exists more than sufficient measurements and certifications (if necessary) available about cables and fuses from responsible and reputable manufacturers.

All in about one or two lines of information.

Problem is that they don’t cost anywhere near enough. That surely can’t be right, can it?

When people attack others for challenging essentially vacant products, my shill alarm goes off. Vacant meaning very limited information available other than the advertised effect on the sound. These products can’t stand on their own so they need people stationed here to defend at all costs and the only ammo the defenders have to do that is they say it sounds good, you know nothing if you do not buy and try, and generally trying to bully others into submission. In some cases if you try and do not hear the benefits they will then attack your hearing ability or system. Happens over and over and very disgusting over time. Just part of being here. Tweak products generate lots of transactions I’m sure and are advertised all over the place here which is fine because it is a business first and forum second. Just be aware.  The tweak defenders want to silence you.  They can't just state their case and move on like is the norm.