How to choose an upgraded tonearm.


In two recent threads on selecting an upgraded cartridge, some of you suggested a new tonearm was in order. Since I’ve never chosen a new tonearm, I’m asking you all for some advice on how to do so for that future event.

My current turntable is a VPI Classic 2 with a VPI JMW 10.5i unipivot tonearm. A new Lyra Kleos MC cartridge is on order. I’ll likely be changing to a gimbal style tonearm. The rest of the system is Magico A3 speakers, a Luxman 507uX MkII integrated amp, a Marants Ruby CD player, and a Shunyata Hydra Denali power conditioner.

What price range should an appropriate tonearm for the Lyra Kleos be in, that would also be in keeping with the price point of my Classic 2, The Classic 2 was in the $3-4,000 range, as is the Lyra Kleos. I’ll be purchasing new, not used, and will not be upgrading any other equipment than the tonearm.

Pardon some rookie questions, but what attributes should I be looking for in a quality tonearm? Who are some of the better known manufacturers, and which models of theirs might be workable? Are there other alternative to either a gimbal or unipvot tonearm? Are tonearms generally interchangeable between different manufacturers turntables? And what improvements in sound quality might be gained by upgrading my tonearm?

Since this is all new to me, any other advice you might have about things to consider would be greatly appreciated and will help kick off my research. Thanks,

Mike

skyscraper

Mijostyn, I do have one of the VPI periphery rings to use with warped records. It weighs a ton and seems to work fairly well in flattening them out during play. Thank you for the suggestion on the Rega RB3000 tonearm. The price is right.

Are you thinking the Rega RB3000 tonearm would be functional height-wise, as well as fit on the Classic 2’s tonearm platform after the unipivot point is removed? I’d much prefer not to have to perform any surgery or drilling to install one. I looked at the Rega RB3000 tonearm manual and it appeared drilling was in order, I could easily be wrong though, as the installation instructions were pretty skimpy for models other than Rega’s own turntables.

The VPI platform has a hole on the platform centered under the tonearm base to bolt a new tonearm’s base into, Seems like a simple arrangement, but maybe uncommon for aftermarket tonearms to have a stem on the underside of their base .

Pindac, thank you for the explanations and clarification on using a pod. This whole subject stemming from getting a new cartridge is more difficult than I’d expected with the limited options available in tonearms suitable for the VPI. At the outset the last thing I was considering was a tonearm upgrade. Nothing good comes easy though.

Panzrwagn, the shortcoming I’m trying to address is that some here have pointed out a gimbal tonearm would be much better than the unipivot tonearm on my VPI Classic 2 to use with a newly ordered Lyra Kleos cartridge.

Mike

@lewm , just watch this and it will explain it ....too most people.

 

Lew, you have to watch all the way through. I know you are going to find it boring after the first 30 seconds. I think even you will understand it. I have posted this on numerous occasions right in front of your face, this time you might try watching it. The vertical bearing problem is a matter of simple geometry. Since I am no good at explaining simple things, watch the video. This fellow is really quite good. 

@skyscraper , Those rings are a PITA to use and dangerous. They also do not totally flatten a record and add a lot of stress/mass to you bearing.

Once you post a link screwy things start happening and you can't post further or make correction.(your bearing).

@skyscraper , to continue I think reflex clamps like the ones JA Mitchel and Sota make are your best bet after vacuum clamping. They are less of a hassle to use and are near as dangerous. Do they improve what you hear? If you record is not flat then absolutely. The brief alterations in pitch that occur are probably worse than the worst wow any modern turntable would reproduce.

"If the record is not flat."  I am sitting here at my desk with my turntable directly to the right with my eye right at stylus level. A 180 gm copy of Take Five is playing as I type. It is sucked down tight to a very flat mat and platter. The cartridge is just slightly gyrating all over the place. Back and forth horizontally due to eccentricity of the spindle hole and up and down due to irregularities in the surface of the record. This record is actually pretty good. All these issues in tonearm design matter. There is no real excuse to ignore any of them. I suppose sometimes you have to compromise. 

skyscraper,

 Below, is another UK company with a reasonably priced arm.

If an armboard is available it may be possible to get it to work with minimal hacking of the plinth? Captive IC's, so one less thing to be concerned with. Possible fit with the existing hole?

The Classic plinth may not be sophisticated, but new arm and addressing speed control will put it a notch higher up in performance. You have the record coupling(peripheral ring) thing covered-close enough to vacuum. 

You're fortunate to get the seasoned/qualified voices in here(I am NOT one of them) Just a VPI Classic fan who won't give up on his.

http://www.audiomods.co.uk/

Mijostyn, If, instead of insults to my intelligence, you would point out to me what minutes in the video explain the physics behind having the pivot in the plane of the LP, I would watch that part of the video. I don’t need the part about the wonderfulness of the AR XA turntable, and I would rather not spend the better part of 51 minutes waiting for the lecture on pivot location.

I watched.  At ~20:00, one can find the discussion about pivot height relative to the LP surface.