Another sophism...
There is a difference in DEGREE yes between all systems acoustically treated or not...
But with your sophism you negate the difference between a particular system submitted to the acoustic optimization process before and after , you cannot negate the difference between BEFORE and AFTER it...You cannot claim that some system exist WHICH WILL NEVER need acoustic optimization process because they seems to sound good for your taste in an uncontrolled room.... Acoustic is science and experiments not a taste... Acoustic is personal and collective history...
This is your sophism...
to be clear and for your sake:
My system is a very low cost one and my room is completely controlled acoustically...
There is a HUGE an astounding difference with the same gear i own between BEFORE and AFTER acoustic control...
Is this acoustic successful control of mine is able to transform my audio system and put it on the same potential level than Jay costly high end one even if the system of Jay is in a non acoustically controlled room ?
The answer is no... Acoustic dont transform magically low cost design in high end design...
then dont confuse your relative experience with some systems in different state and rooms with the power of an optimization process linked in all case to the potential of very different systems...
Optimization always beat by huge margin non optimization for ANY system...
Comparing an optimized room/speakers like mine to Jays system few months ago EVEN in a non optimized acoustical condition WILL NOT PUT MY SYSTEM ON THE SAME LEVEL than his system ...
Is it clear? 😁😊
Then we disagree .... I recognized that between different systems there MAY be a difference of degree ONLY...But for a specific system acoustic control induce a complete transformation and make this system able to reach his optimal working potential... It is not a degree difference here, it is a transformation...
But so big the transformation is , this will not transform a vintage Sansui amplifier or my modest Mission Cyrus speakers into the same ball game than High end amplifier and speakers FOR SURE...
Acoustic do miracles for a system, but dont transform pig into a beatiful girl....But magnificent pig exist so to speak.... 😁😊
Ha! Funny stuff. Yes, we just disagree on degree of importance room to room. That’s all. I have logically and tirelessly compared “treatments” over the years and stand behind my comments.