Amir and Blind Testing


Let me start by saying I like watching Amir from ASR, so please let’s not get harsh or the thread will be deleted. Many times, Amir has noted that when we’re inserting a new component in our system, our brains go into (to paraphrase) “analytical mode” and we start hearing imaginary improvements. He has reiterated this many times, saying that when he switched to an expensive cable he heard improvements, but when he switched back to the cheap one, he also heard improvements because the brain switches from “music enjoyment mode” to “analytical mode.” Following this logic, which I agree with, wouldn’t blind testing, or any A/B testing be compromised because our brains are always in analytical mode and therefore feeding us inaccurate data? Seems to me you need to relax for a few hours at least and listen to a variety of music before your brain can accurately assess whether something is an actual improvement.  Perhaps A/B testing is a strawman argument, because the human brain is not a spectrum analyzer.  We are too affected by our biases to come up with any valid data.  Maybe. 

chayro

In a word we can see the world with the ears, like some blind people already did, but we will never spoke with the eyes...Even if some particular popular idiom say so....

Hearing is complex more than the eyes and incorporate the visual system not the opposite...Ears are able to retrieve deep hidden information and translate it ...

The eye redistribute SOME of what is already spatially there...Eyes dont create a complete new world like the ears did with what we call MUSIC or SPEECH , two complete new worlds of sound anchored in the human body....

How simplistic will be someone who think we can "measure" hearing creative power, or even only his  "audible" resolutive  abilities or his interpretative power, with only a decibel meter linear scale to decide what we can hear and what we cannot ?

Any sound is a complex body of potential information not measurable by the Hertz scale sorry....

 

****  It (ears) contributes nothing to gaining knowledge about a product.  ****

Wow!  

What's the matter? Pill stuck in your throat? Correct, your subjective opinion using your ears and 'eyes' you conveniently forgot those ,  contributes nothing towards furthering knowledge about a product.  I am always amazed of the hilltop pontificating about use your ears yet nobody seems willing to do so. 

 

Mahgister,

Not trying to be sarcastic. Just trying to point out, with a nod to Oscar Wilde, that Amir is earnest and so are you. Maybe two earnest. Two sides of the same coin?

 

djones, I don’t understand why you find it necessary to personalize matters; and in a contentious way. Apparently, my opinion on the subject strikes a chord that causes defensiveness and the use of sarcasm in you. Why does it bother you so that my opinion differs from yours? Defensiveness is usually a sign that on some level a person knows that there is truth in the “objectionable” comment.

Now, please explain where in what I wrote did I say anything about using ONLY one’s ears? Let’s try it again, shall we?

 

+++. **** We use the tools at our disposal to assess and make decisions. Some do it better than others …… **** - mapman

…. and this includes the best tool of all, our ears. +++

Notice that I wrote “includes”. Inclusion is not exclusionary. However, I do believe that of ALL the tools available our ears are the best guide. Why shouldn’t they be? Ultimately, we LISTEN to the sounds that our gear reproduce, no?  And, yes, some do it better than others.

So, why don’t you take a chill pill and let others have their opinions; and, if you must, debate without sarcasm. Or, is all this a bit of cross-thread grudge?

**** I am always amazed of the hilltop pontificating about use your ears yet nobody seems willing to do so. ****

If you only knew.