SQ or performance?


In classical music, how much does the sound quality influence your enjoyment of a particular piece?  I find it plays a large part. A recording is an artifact in itself.  There are many factors which contribute to the final product. And even a great performance can be sabotaged by poor engineering, poor pressing, poor microphone placement and the like. Conversely, a mediocre performance can be attractive to us because of sterling acoustics.   
In “historical” recordings we may allow for bad sound, but in contemporary performances the sound can have  a significant bearing on our perspective.
Also, our appreciation of a given performance can be affected by other factors.  For example, if we grew up loving a certain version, all others may suffer by comparison in our view.
 

 

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I don’t believe that details of a composition that are lost is a plus.  
A recording which blurs the details is not an improvement. 
I’m not saying audiophile recordings that have razor sharp definition such as the highly touted Mercury Living Presence are the ideal. They are not what’s heard in the hall. However recordings which realistically and accurately portray the acoustic are optimum. 
Certainly  I believe the performance should come first. But, as an audiophile, I do relish in a palpably recorded orchestra, especially in the heavily orchestrated works of the late romantic period. 
As far as solo and chamber works go, again a too close perspective, although perhaps attractive, is not necessarily real.



 

 

Why are you all putting up YouTube presentations in a thread about sound quality?  The SQ is dire.

Recordings made after about 1950 can be very good SQ.  Before then not really; you are listening for the performance.

Why are you all putting up YouTube presentations in a thread about sound quality? The SQ is dire.

 

It is better to read posts before posting...

Why?

Because if you dont have read my posts you cannot know what i spoke about and why i chose these links to youtube...

Then your posts are rude...

If you had read my posts and anyway decide to say my links are terrible, you are rude and not very wise, because the links are there to make an interesting point...

An interpretation can be so powerful that in spite of bad recording sound we listen it anyway because there is no choice...

Beauty is beauty without make up, wrapped and covered with mud...It is called the soul...

 

If the thread title in two words define an alternatives, sound or performance it is normal that someone post youtube links to make a point...

Then the choice of the adjective "dire" to describe these links say more about your behaviour than about my posts...

 

 

 

 

I listen to a lot of historical performances along with modern (I.e. stereo).  So I can’t really say SQ is the deciding factor.  It is definitely important, however.  Even historical performances can sound very different depending upon the restoration technique.  Compare Pristine Audio with Immortal Performances, for example.  They have both reissued the same NBC Symphony concerts from the early forties led by Toscanini and Walter.  Pristine likes to inject a lot of ambience, and IP is less interventionist.  They both are recognizable as having the same source but the differences are interesting.

   With modern recordings I am more tolerant of less than perfect sound.  I was listening to some Debussy from Vikung Olaffson on DG and then the same music from Peter Frankl on Vox in the same listening session.  I love both discs and having played the Frankl second at first the ear is confronted with opaque Sonics but soon it adjusts

Saying that it is better to have especially with orchestra the better possible S.Q. is only a common place fact no one in his sound mind could ever oppose... 😁😊 It goes almost without saying for me...

But i cannot throw the 9th symphony of Bruckner by Furtwangler and listen ONLY Celibidache for example or Giulini because the sound is better... Why?

Because in music the goal is not only esthetical perfect pleasure, not at all, music also reflect consciousness in history and the goal is increasing our counscious link with the intention of the composer, all good interpretations and only that can make us more enlightened about the intention of a composer...

And sometimes in some cases in spite of bad recording process some interpret embodied perfection...That was my point...

The most stunning experience in music come when we FORGOT the sound....Especially if we love beautiful sounds in beautiful recordings...

And i will repeat that i am most interested by acoustic and good sound than most here if we judge this interest by the amount of time invested in the effort to create acoustic of room...

😁😊

 

Music gestures or interpretations must be interiorized , music is not sound but through sound ....And sound is not always "music" even beautiful sounds...

 

 

«Silence is never badly interpreted but can be badly recorded »-Groucho Marx 🤓

«Because here the "musician" is the sound engineer, it is the reverse Grouch»-Harpo Marx

«Right, silence need a listener interpretation»-Chico Marx

«The circonstance of an interpretation speak volume: take the silence of Christ on the cross or Lao Tze silence going west»-Gummo Marx

«I prefer the silence of the maestro anyway at the end »-Zeppo Marx