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Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?

Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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tk21
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Just because some people question the value of expensive cables does not automatically make them "audiophile deniers". Now, if I come on here and ridicule the entire hobby, that’s one thing. But suppose I suggest that cables have a low point of diminishing returns and that money is better spent on other components. That’s a legitimate opinion about how to achieve audiophile nirvana.

Is it in fact possible that a better interconnect can improve SQ as much as a better DAC or a better preamp? I really don’t know, but would like to hear both sides (preferably backed up by either objective evidence or expert opinion). That is a big reason I visit a forum like this.

 

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bruce19
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Blessings on you believers and agnostics alike! Doesn’t it come down to whether you think this hobby resides more in the realm of science or faith? If the former then challenge and refutation is the mothers milk of a truth seeker. If the latter then we should just declare it so and proclaim that all apostates will be banished into the wilderness.

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wsrrsw
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This comes to mind….

 

“A CULT OF IGNORANCE” BY ISAAC ASIMOV, 1980

It’s hard to quarrel with that ancient justification of the free press: “America’s right to know.” It seems almost cruel to ask, ingenuously, ”America’s right to know what, please? Science? Mathematics? Economics? Foreign languages?”
None of those things, of course. In fact, one might well suppose that the popular feeling is that Americans are a lot better off without any of that tripe.
There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

robert53
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I agree with spenav. I don't get offended by the people with negative comments. Actually, I kind of feel sorry for them because they can't hear the differences with cables, fuses etc. But like spenav also said, if they can't hear the differences and are happy without these things, that's ok. Enjoying music is the bottom line.

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