Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?


Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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You appear to want to be exposed to only one path to achieving acoustic nirvana. That is both boring, isolationist, and flawed. Both sides of the argument can have value to share with the other side. One side can share with the other how deviating from "perfect" can result in something that you like more, while the other side, can show them, once communicated, how to better achieve their goals.

I concur...

 

 

This us-and-them mentality has crept into too many aspects of modern life.  Once upon a time there were shades of grey.  What if I believe it's worth getting an Audio Envy or Zavfino PC, but not a Hijiri or an AQ whatever?  What if I believe a Littelfuse ceramic fuse for audio/medical is worth it, but not SR.  What if I really like certain small speaker companies (beginning with F and S) but not others (beginning with T).  It's called nuance. Don't let it be a foreign concept!

@jerryg123 

Nope. Wasn't riled up in the least. It's just that I love putting you in your place with some actual facts and not brook the BS from your alternative universe. 👍

Enjoy the holidays. 😀

All the best,
Nonoise

What's happening on Twitter is not at all like what's happening here. Way to go out yourself for all to see. The whole motive behind Musk's move is to excite TFG's base so he can manipulate the stock (again) before he dumps it, just like he did with Dogecoin, fleecing the rubes who followed his tweets.

 

Perhaps, but I still bought a fairly substantial amount of Twitter stock after he did, then sold it after he announced his offer. Too risky to know how it will end. I will take the gains.

 

Until audiophiles allow or at least accept blind testing, they'll likely never be taken very seriously. 

Agreed.

Audiophiles are already out on somewhat of a limb already but if we were to restrict debate and criticism we may just find ourselves hopelessly detached from the rest of humanity. 

Long term evaluation is the gold standard for audio review. Short term testing is a flawed concept. People can easily form the wrong opinion on a short term test but it's really hard to fool yourself over the long term.