Better Cartridge/Turntable advice for old-school Hip Hop music
Hi Audiogon forums,
I’m Kevin and even though I have been a long-time reader, this is my first post and you guys would probably squinty your eyes looking at the title.
I recently upgrade my turntable and was quite disappointed with the way the new system sounds, and how inexperienced I am in choosing a table/cartridge combo that does not suit my music genre, so I really look forward for your input to help me improve my system. Here is my system profile:
- - Vintage Thorens TD125 Long-Base with 12-inch Jelco 850L arm & Audio Technica VM760SLC MM Cart – Table has been fully serviced by Dave @VinylNirvana so it is working correctly.
- - Joseph Bookshelf Speaker RM7XL
- - Rogue Audio Magnum 1st generation
- - EAR 834 P Phono preamplifier
- - REL Sentor II Sub-woofer
- - Speaker/IC/ power cable are in either Cardas Golden Preference or Cardas Clear
TLDR My problem: after upgrading my modern Audio Technica LP7 (with stock cartridge) to the newer Thorens with ~10x more expensive cartridge, my Hiphop records sound less amusing.
More specific on the problem:
After paying almost $4k on upgrading the table, ALL my Hiphop records sound MUCH slower in speed, rapping vocal became less powerful, which I know for the genre, speed and power would be the 1st priority, hence in general the music became less intriguing.
What has been improved is that general tonality, soundstage, are all became greater in terms of space, definition and clarity, instruments became much more musical and natural sounding.
The new Thorens TD125 triumphed the old AT LP7 for all other genres: rock (Beatles, Pink Floyd, David Bowie, Stones, RadioHead, etc.), soul (Isaac Hayes), jazz, funk, blues, etc… are all sounds so good for me at the moment.
I’m truly satisfied when putting on these other genres but unfortunately, 70% of the time I would be listening to HipHop records (A Tribe Called Quest, Beastie Boys, De La Soul, Dr. Dre, Public Enemy, Gang Starr, Outkast, UGK, Wu Tang, Nas, Kanye West, you name it). P/s: I’m really into psychedelic, complex layering Hiphop records.
So, what should I do now? Where does the problem come from? I don’t know if a vintage table could not do well with more modern Hiphop music, or it’s solely because of my bad cartridge choice?
I still currently keep the AT LP7 to listen to Hip Hop, but I prefer to only keep 1 table due to space constrain. I still have a spare fund of around $1k to upgrade a better cartridge, but it MUST be able to rock my Hiphop beats better than the stock cartridge on the AT LP7.
Could you guy kindly advise me some solutions for my problem?
Thank you very much and take care!
Kevin
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VTA will never change a bad sounding cartridge to a good sounding cartridge. This is all about minor changes that you can barely hear. Look at the diamond of your cartridge under a macro lens and if there is nothing wrong I don't think you can tune the sound by VTA adjustment. I don't know what do you expect from your speakers. This can be a problem, maybe you need a high efficient speaker instead ? Bookshelf without SUB means no deep bass. If some of your friend can give you another phono stage to try then definitely try it. |
Hi guys, @chakster you were definitely right but I have no one around to borrow another phono stage until now!
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