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I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged.

I just can't clear my head of this. I don't want to start a measurements vs listening war and I'd appreciate it if you guys don't, but I bought a Rogue Sphinx V3 as some of you may remember and have been enjoying it quite a bit. So, I head over to AVS and read Amir's review and he just rips it apart. But that's OK, measurements are measurements, that is not what bugs me. I learned in the early 70s that distortion numbers, etc, may not be that important to me. Then I read that he didn't even bother listening to the darn thing. That is what really bugs me. If something measures so poorly, wouldn't you want to correlate the measurements with what you hear? Do people still buy gear on measurements alone? I learned that can be a big mistake. I just don't get it, never have. Can anybody provide some insight to why some people are stuck on audio measurements? Help me package that so I can at least understand what they are thinking without dismissing them completely as a bunch of mislead sheep. 

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oddiofyl
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Thats like a restaurant critic looking at a plate and not tasting it.....   Some of my worst measuring gear sounds great, so who cares.   They literally don't care what it sounds like.  Measures bad?  Must be bad..   Measures great?  It's the best....

I have zero interest in ASR

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roxy54
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I think that in the not too distant future we are going to learn that there are many dimensions of our perception that don't align with current systems of measured performance.

I'm not familiar with AVS, but I had no idea that there were any on line reviewers who did measurement reviews without and accompanying listening test. That makes no sense.  

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jond
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If you want to simply trash products based on measurements the last thing you want to do is listen to them and realize they actually sound good. It's pure self defense.

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rocray
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My ears are my ultimate measuring device.   My systems are built around what makes me happy, not some guy on the web that takes “audio” gear,and doesn’t “listen” to it. To me,that makes no sense.  That would be like writing a car review based on a dyno run,without ever driving it. 

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russ69 OP
3,360 posts
 

I understand the desire, need and validity of objective inquiry...

Thanx, that helps.

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