The past meets the future


I have become a huge advocate of streaming over the last few years as streaming has at long last reached audiophile sound quality. So, for someone that is new to audio or does not have a lot of money invested… it is hard to recommend this route.

However, as an old fart. One that suffered through low end turntables, unbelievable surface noise, scratched records, and debatable fidelity for much of his life. Owning a tremendous analog end is such a pleasure. I recently upgraded my contemporary Linn LP12 to nearly the maximum. I have a Audio Research Reference 3 phono stage so the sound quality is simply stunning.

Taking a Covid break and going to my local record store… buying a half dozen great old blues albums… cleaning up to pristine condition. It is such a pleasure to hear such fidelity and musicality from a ritual I have performed since a teenager… record store, spinning. That has been mainstream for me for over fifty years. I guess it is like the old Shortwave radio guys when I was growing up. They had the 25’ antenna sticking up above their suburban houses in the 1960’s.

Just a nod to the era and tradition that will soon pass into history. It has been a blast.

ghdprentice

As to the issue artist treated unfairly in distribution of money with streaming. I agree there are issues here, but this is not inherent to streaming platform, its simply an unfair business model at present.

 

And since when have we not had unfair business models in the music business? I remember when a few record companies controlled the entire recording and distribution networks, Some bands signing for multi $100k contracts, others for relative pennies, and that if they could get recorded at all! Think of how many band never even got to record in the bad old days! I know I have a few cd's of these totally obscure bands from 60's into 80's where bands only output was some demos that were never released in the day. What about all these bands?

 

 

No, if one is going to lament the good old days, if you look back without the rose colored glasses you'll see they weren't so good. I lament what I believe will be the passing of vinyl, don't lament the business models that existed during it's heyday. I'll also add, the vinyl situation as it applies to business models continues to be very bad. I bet more than 90% of streaming content NOT available on vinyl. Most of the vinyl I see is the some reissue of some reissue of older material for which bands have been handsomely paid or current popular bands which are also being handsomely paid.

 

At least with streaming and the wide availability of home recording equipment one has a much better chance of having your music heard vs. vinyl. Since streaming I've heard the most obscure bands imaginable, both current and from those not so good old days. Just yesterday I discovered Moondog, totally obscure experimental artist from the 60's, the guy had to invent his own label, and of course no one heard his music back in the day, eventually left for Europe to be heard. This guy also has amazing life story, which is another bonus of streaming in that you get some insight into artists with attendant stories on artist and/or recording screen.

 

Streaming is awesome in that I get to discover new artists and new releases from old artists all the time. My musical horizons have been pushed much farther than vinyl ever allowed. Back in the day, the only way I could broaden my music horizons was through University student FM stations.

 

How can vinyl hope to compete with streaming going into future. I don't think its possible just based on some of the above. Vinyl requires expenditures most artists can't afford, pressing and distribution costs alone make it prohibitive. Vinyl will never be more than nostalgic or niche in future.

...mid-'60's, I grew up and lived across from one of those 'ham' operators with the big antenna.  Walt was one of those Morse fans that used a Lighting Bug keyer, although set up for voice....

Walt was a pleasant reserved kinda guy....looking back, he looked like what recently would be a archetypical 'geek'...

Don't remember the plastic pen protector for his shirts, but was more curious about his gear.  Bought a SW receiver later on....got more enjoyment out of the 'stereo stuff that followed....*S*

Thanks for the flashback, @ghdprentice 👍

I have never had a vinyl set up and I feel it’s probably too late to start but I bought my son a starter vinyl set up last Christmas and he seems to really like it. 

emrofsemanon

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i just don't get people who say that "good phonographic playback is totally noiseless" - that is basically like saying that analog tape is noiseless when it is quite obvious to anybody with ears that it is not. even a dolby A-encoded master tape has a residual amount of tape noise. even virgin vinyl in a lab-grade clean room has surface noise. how anybody can deny this is beyond me. 

Sorry you've never experienced "good phonographic playback".