Two vs four subwoofers for music playback


Hello guys,

I currently have a pair of subwoofers for my 2 channel audio system and I enjoy them very much as they make a big difference in sound quality, mostly on body, presence/ambience and 3D image.

I'm thinking about buying an extra pair of subs to emulate a Swarm bass array and smooth out even more the room bass response and get even better dynamics, 3D and presence.

Has anyone had experienced a similar situation?

Has anyone done it?

Can you share your thoughts here? 

Is it worth the expense and the effort of voicing extra subs? 

plga

A very tall woofer tower, I guess, could give some of that effect.

Notice how I said woofer tower not subwoofer tower. The main benefit is they crossover higher and recreate the recorded room ambiance. That is lost by distributed arrays. Towers are my preferred set-up for that very reason. I've been running an Infinity RS-1B woofer system for many years. 

What do you have today? I suggest you put your system photos under your user ID. That will give us something to work with.

I have have owned 4 B&W 800 subwoofers, two for my home theater and two for my two channel audio. At some point I upgraded my speakers and got rid of my subs… a great move. Better coherency… overall the sound took a giant leap up. But, it depends. What is your system?

According to Earl Geddes, whose ideas the Swarm is based on, the in-room smoothness goes up as the number of independent bass sources goes up.  So four subs intelligently-distributed are theoretically twice as smooth as two (and "smooth bass" = "fast bass" because it is the in-room peaks which take longer to decay into inaudibility).  In practice the measured improvement is typically not quite as good as in theory, but is still significant.

A little bit of frequency response improvement in the bass region goes a long way, and this is because the ear is actually more sensitive to changes in SPL at low frequencies than higher up the spectrum.  If you eyeball a set of equal-loudness curves, you will see that they bunch up in the bass region.  So a 5 dB change in SPL at 40 Hz is subjectively comparable to a 10 dB change in SPL at 1 kHz!  This heightened sensitivity to SPLdifferences at low frequencies is one of the reasons why it often takes a long time and a lot of fine-tuning to "dial in" the ideal gain setting on a subwoofer amp.

Also, it is not necessary that all four subs be identical.  In fact in his own distributed multi-sub system, only one of Earl Geddes' subs extends all the way down. 

Duke

Swarm manufacturer

Duke >> Also, it is not necessary that all four subs be identical.  In fact in his own distributed multi-sub system, only one of Earl Geddes' subs extends all the way down.  <<

Thanks for that information, Duke! In my setup, only one of three goes to 15 Hz, and it seems to be enough. Since that was only one example, I hesitate to recommend such an approach to others. But now with Geddes, N = 2, much better!

Hi guys

Thanks for the answers.

I like very much the bass response I get from my current set up and room, but it took some work to get it.

I think that I can try adding just one more sub and experiment with different locations and orientacions before buying a pair.

I also have límited places to place them due to decor, so buying a pair is much riskier.