I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged.

The situation is not very good in the world right now...

I think music help a lot to relax...

But good news and interesting stimulating research too...

Then why ridiculizing this instead of thinking?

Do you want and miss if you are an objectivist arguing with some fetichist subjectivist, or if you are a subjectivist arguing with some zealot objectivist ? Do you miss this circling over this empty meaningless brain void? Not me...

We are all normal audiophiles here and we dont need stupid oppositions based on the wind coming from some rear end....

What is sound? what is music? what is hearing? This interest me the most.....

What is time is a very deep question and why time exist?

What is musical time?

Music dont obey the laws of external time, music emerge with his own time, and Alain Connes was amazed by this fact which for him illustrate a fundamental non- commutativity in the cosmos and in number theory like in music...

All great maestros like Furwangler and Ansermet have wriiten about this fact, conducting a musical work is letting emerge his internal temporality over the external one...

It is a new take in what philosophers of the past called "Platonic forms", which are better described for Anirban Bandyopadhyay by being time-like fractal crystals acting like clocks and geometrical patterns at the same time and distributed by the ruling prime numbers series....

i am amazed...

@mahgister

My main interest is how do we hear and tune in and interpret sound with this spiral-like and non linear structure of the cochlea, my Ariane thread is the non commutativity of the tone scale ...What is music?

Yes, it’s an interesting phenomena indeed. It’s probably one that will never be fully understood either. How can it be, seeing as how we’re all the result of quite different life experiences? Not to mention different listening environments and apparatus.

On the other hand, playback equipment is nothing like us. No amount anthropomorphism can change the fact that it has no feelings, no emotions, no moods and no memory of what it did yesterday or yesteryear.

Its sole function is to react to whatever signal that is passed through it whilst contributing as little as possible of its own character. Take the example of the infamous Linn LP12 and ask yourself which version is more neutral, the original or the current one? Or perhaps we could ask why Rega titled their book, A Vibration Measuring Machine?

I’m pretty sure that neither of these companies, both steeped in engineering, would want their products described has having ’character’ or ’colour’.

If some folks do want to play with the speakers and amps and what have you that audibly deviate from the ideal of neutrality, then that’s their choice. They are free to indulge themselves in the same way that an impressionist artist is wont to do.

A life through a distortion lens can certainly have its tinted appeal.

The rest of us might instead prefer playback equipment that seeks to emulate a clear glass window into the recording studio, warts and all.

There’s a good summing up of how the industry cold bloodedly approaches these issues of high fidelity that matter so much to some of us here courtesy of the audiophilliac himself, Steve Guttenberg.

Here is a Fields medallist, Alain Connes and a nobel prize Penrose coupled with this Indian scientist who cumulate already many prizes who is 37 years old now, already first author of many books, with ten to come soon, are they  look like a quacks assembly, save perhaps  for someone who type non sense here?

Do you think Penrose lost many days of his life discussing with a quack?

Call me a "quack" it will be less damaging for your brain reputation here...

When people talk about the geometry of music it sound more like they might be describing an LSD experience.

So much so, that I could not get through the video.

I would certainly take measurements over a geometry analogy.

I dont want to insult your intelligence, but confusing these scientists with Timothy Leary is not a good point if you want to criticize my articles and videos postings , nor Penrose, neither Connes or Anirban Bandyopadhyay are LSD users...

Be wise call me a quack but do not confuse serious science you dont understand with your impression of me..it is not to your advantage...

And before posting an opinion take the time necessary to understand a difficult matter....

Sorry to say so.....

All people talking about the " geometry of music" are not idiots in audio forum...

I can be an idiot posting in audio forum, yes, you are right, but Anirban Bandyopadhyay is not one.... Dont confuse thing... By the way do you smoke too much marijuana yourself ? It seems you confuse the messenger, me, with the message, them....

When people talk about the geometry of music it sound more like they might be describing an LSD experience.

So much so, that I could not get through the video.

I would certainly take measurements over a geometry analogy.

By the way do you smoke too much marijuana yourself ? It seems you confuse the messenger, me, with the message, them....

I do not, but I feel like I need to do a Chech-n-Chong skit, with the subject going to clocks inside of clocks inside of clocks.

And before posting an opinion take the time necessary to understand a difficult matter....

Sorry to say so.....

All people talking about the " geometry of music" are not idiots in audio forum...

The one fellow has “Chopra Foundation” on his slides… Chopra has been a darling of the unscientific for a while. Usually wild eyed ranting, that would get many admired to an asylum for observation. 

All people talking about the " geometry of music" are not idiots in audio forum...

I can be an idiot posting in audio forum, yes, you are right, but Anirban Bandyopadhyay is not one.... Dont confuse thing... By the way do you smoke too much marijuana yourself ? It seems you confuse the messenger, me, with the message, them....

But those people that you revere are not posting their clocks in clocks stories in an audio forum thread about “whether measurements have merit.”
You are their personal messenger, from my perspective.

I dont want to insult your intelligence, but confusing these scientists with Timothy Leary is not a good point if you want to criticize my articles and videos postings , nor Penrose, neither Connes or Anirban Bandyopadhyay are LSD users...

Be wise call me a quack but do not confuse serious science you dont understand with your impression of me..it is not to your advantage...

I think honesty, and calling things as we see them, is worthwhile.
But maybe I am not intelligent enough to understand the topic.
However I am intelligent enough to hear a phrase like “seeing geometry” and think… Oh yeah, that sounds like an acid trip, which also sounds like what meditation practitioners also come up with.

And I did not listen to the 2 hour talk. The Indian fellow’s non-sense on clocks within clocks was more than enough.