Politics and Music


The Trumpets of Jericho

Beethoven and Napoleon 

Wagner and the Nazis

"Ohio" and the Vietnam War

"Imagine" and consumerism 

The Dixie Chicks 

Countless examples illustrate the intersection of Music and Politics. Jerry Garcia referenced his group as "just a dance band." Always pondered how we react to our choices of music. Divorce it entirely from the controversies of the day and merely enjoy the artistry or allow it to change the way in which we view the world. Transformative, escapism, nostalgia, intellectual profundity, cultural discovery. Large questions. Your thoughts?

jpwarren58

@emrofsemanon 

“the greatest music is multi-level in its meaning. some diatribes are danceable”. 

You win.

Politics can be the inspiration for a lot of great music.  The Popular music realm—-a.k.a the Sixties—are well known to most forumites.  In Classical the High Romantic era and the rise of Nationalism gave rise to works such as Smetena Ma Vlast, Dvorak Slavonic Dances, many works by Tchaikovsky and the Russian Mighty Handful.  French, Mexicanand American Composers have had their Patrriotic outings.  All of this in addition to examples given by the OP and other posters here.

  Tchaikovsky was held to be in bad odor in Wales at the outbreak of the Russian incursion into Ukraine.  An orchestra in Wales canceled an evening of Slavonic Marche, Little Russian Symphony, and the 1812 Overture. (“Little Russia” is term that many Russians used to refer to Ukraine, and the Symphony is basically a riff on Ukrainian Folk Songs).  Piotr died around 1895, so I am not sure how he was supposed to anticipate Political Sensibilities 130 years in the Future, but there you have it

Hating Russians for their government move is preposterous...

It is like hating americans because of Bush or any other president...

Cancelling Russian culture is beyond stupidity...

Politic and music are not separable, no more than in England for example Tallis or Byrd were understandable and the relation between their works in a comparison without the passage of Catholicism to Henry VIII protestantism...

All music is born from a sociological cultural context, which include politic in any era...

Why is this important?

Because all histories, economic,politic,artistic,musical,scientific etc reflect only one history together : the history of human consciousness itself...

Then the goal of each of us as student is to decipher the past layers of the unconscious in our own consciousness...

One of the best underestimated books i know among others for doing that is :

 

Jean Gebser " the ever present origin"...

A work beyond ordinary genius...

Or Egon Fridell : "the cultural history of the modern age"...

Or in the US : F.S.C. Northrop " the meeting of east and west"...

All underestimated flabbergasting opuses complementary of each other...

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the entire purpose of this thread is so obvious. Ray Charles could see through it.

Artemus5,

“The 60's  movement was all about peace, love and ending wars. Yet since we, the baby boomers have grown and taken the roles of power, we have endless wars, violent riots and now the cancel culture where only one viewpoint is even allowed.”

As a  youth I marched to oppose the Vietnam War, and the songs of Bob Dylan, Phil Ochs, The Jefferson Airplane, Country Joe, and Barry Maguire were very much the playlist of protest. Even then there were Young Republicans who counterprotested, shouting Love it or Leave It,  Cut your hair, Get a job, etc. The ‘60s Woodstock generation was not everywhere the same, and there were plenty of straight young people who would not have had to reject the pieties of the left in order to become the adult Neo-Cons who pushed our dear country into endless unwinnable wars of opportunity.  As for “violent protests”, they were a reaction to police murder of Black men and really were a new expression of the Civil Rights movement.  Their legitimate protest was commingled with property damage in some places, but overwhelmingly they were peaceful. Left “Cancel culture” is a regrettable campus  phenomenon and an abuse of Social media.  On the Right It is more widely practiced …ask Liz Cheney!  

Why does Florida’s Ron DeSantis promote laws banning public schools from teaching the role played in our Founding by the legacy of Slavery by labeling it “CRT”?  Why ban the discussion of current thinking on gender identity by falsely claiming educators are “grooming” students?  In the current highly siloed world of Red vs. Blue, Truth is the central victim..