What are we objectivists missing?


I have been following (with much amusement) various threads about cables and tweaks where some claim "game changing improvements" and other claim "no difference".  My take is that if you can hear a difference, there must be some difference.  If a device or cable or whatever measures exactly the same it should sound exactly the same.  So what are your opinions on what those differences might be and what are we NOT measuring that would define those differences?

jtucker

just wondering if anyone has any speculation as to what measurements are missing.

Unfortunately, we don’t know what we don’t know. I’m pretty sure that within 10 years someone will come up with a way to measure distortion in an audio signal that is currently unknown to us.

Not snarky at all. You asked what we are missing. We are missing the ability to measure sound quality. Until we figure that out, we will have to use our ears and become the best listeners possible.

Your concept is correct but you have to measure everything that matters and some things like frequency response and distortion are only part of the story. And these examples are essentially static measurements and music is dynamic not static. so even if you use only some measures, not all, at least use dynamic measurements like dynamic linearity which while not the entire story by far does correlate subjectively well to fidelity to the input

What  are objectivists missing? Trust in their senses, which may be good thing in that certain individuals have a less developed aural acuity.

My opinion on this is the following: is there a difference between 2 cables at $100  vs. $1,000; obviously.  Will ypu hear a difference, yes.  How muxh of the difference, a very small percentage.  Is it worth it? I dom't believe so. A system that cost $1k vs $10k will have poaitives and negatives.  At the end, we're here to listen to good music. It comes down to personal taste and satisfaction.  Some people who has disposable inxome will need to spend $100k on a sound system, and thats okay. I love to try new equipment to see if I can hear some differences.