Will rebuilt Quad ESL 57s take the place on a great $30K dynamic speaker?


In the ‘90s I lived joyfully with Quad 57s for 10 years. Have always missed them.

Especially since Electrostatic Solutions rebuilds came to light, I have looked for a used pair. My system today is far better than what I had back then.

I was very curious to hear what they would sound like now.

I love my current speakers, but have experienced some fatigue in loud, full passages. And I realized that most of what I listened to was acoustic Jazz and Classical. But with a good amount of Pop singer/songwriter.

The Quads beautifully reproduce solo or otherwise “gentle” music. They are magical with voices. Eg.: Opera that I never got into much is now sublime. And voices in general.

But on something like Peter Gabriel, the fall apart. “So” which was a favorite recording is problematic at best.

I am leaning toward the Quads since they do “moderate” unlike almost any.

But I do miss the dynamics. Bass and treble.

 

 

 

mglik

Learned a lesson once more: don’t judge a component until it has a chance to warm up and open up. The First Watt M3 is much better today now that it went from dead cold to warm after about 10 hours. And the Quads have now also opened up.

Interesting, moderate volume recordings which are so, so on my big dynamic speakers sound good and interesting on the Quads. They are seducing. 
Now listening to David Crosby “If I Could Only Remember my Name”.

Very soft. Very lovely. Still not really a good recording, but it takes you in.

Uniquely offers insight into the soul of the music that is only offered by Quad 57.

And a cool 3D soundstage. Feel I am hearing Crosby for the first time.

I definitely understand why people use tweeters. And to a lessor extent, subs.

This record absolutely was not very good on the dynamic speakers.

Now, it goes into the best recordings file.

And, wow, clarinet trio-beautiful! It definitely takes a bit of time to “accept” the sound of Quad’s instruments and voices. They are very different than dynamic speakers. Dare I say more real?

And I, mostly, take back what I said yesterday about Peter Gabriel’s “So”.

Just put on the first minute of that disc. The booming bass was tamed. And the overall SQ is acceptable and good. But it still is not the kind of content with which the Quads excel. Quiet is lovely. Yes, sublime.

Elizabeth Swartzkopf and orchestra beautiful balance and tone. A main difference with the AGD Audions is that the phrasing is clearly heard. The subtitle beginning and end of phrases is not as clear with the First Watt. This is a good example of how something relatively small can make a big difference. But still, I am engaged with the music which is not so with the big dynamic speakers.

Walker’s Wonders? I get it.

 

Apples to oranges. Two amps with totally different construction/design.

Good Luck on your adventure.

B

 

Hello mglik!  Adding a subwoofer will give you dynamics in the lower musical spectrum. All the panel speakers lack dynamic fireworks (but they sing so clear and detailed!). I've used mono and stereo subs with Maggies of verious kinds since  the late 80's. Cross it over somewhere between 80 an 300 Hz. Enjoy!

@mglik

 

I am always surprised when I haven’t used a piece of equipment for a while and it goes through breakin over again… the weirdest is a power cord moved.. requires a few days to settle down. How can this be? But it is reproducible.

Ok, I had to accept breakin of new stuff… but I hate to admit “rebreakin”… but no question… it is real. No wonder everyone considers us crazy.

I’ve been running my 57’s with an EL34 integrated and they sound great with that. Do not feel I am missing out on dynamics. Just finished building a Hiraga 30 watt Class A amp. As soon as the transformer arrives, I will be setting up the 57’s again (Currently listening to a 10 Watt Pass VFet amp through Cornwalls).

 

Built the amp after reading the success people had running the amp w these speakers.

I should have it finished next week, and will post my findings. Very curious how 30 watts of EL34 compares with 30 watts of SS. Looking forward to hearing differences first hand!