Isn't it really about quality of recording?


Are most of us just chasing our tails?

I mean you listen to a variety of recordings and some sound a lot better than others. Your system has limited impact on how good recordings can be. I am awestruck how some music sounds and clearly my system has nothing to do with it, it all occurred when the music was produced.

We talk about soundstage and imaging and I am not sure all the effort and money put toward a better system can really do that much for most of what we listen to because the quality is lesser than other recordings.

You can walk into a room and hear something that really sounds good and you say wow what an amazing System you have but no!!! It's the recording dummy not the system most of the time. Things don't sound so good it's probably the recording.

The dealers don't wanna talk about Recording quality no one seems to want to talk about it and why is this? Because there's no money to be made here that's why.

 

jumia

After just installing a DAC, I find that the vinyls that sounded bad with the TT also seem to correlate with the ones that sound bad when streaming through the DAC.

@rumi  A good home system can make mediocre recordings more enjoyable to listen to, and there are a lot of good sounding recordings out there in spite of the record companies' best efforts to avoid this.  We would really appreciate it, though, if you guys would try a little harder to make better sounding recordings.  We'd even be willing to pay a little more for them.

@jumia I think you're in the wrong hobby.  You don't seem to like anything about audio.

A speaker that makes a crap recording sound like gold is really colored! Sometimes not a bad thing if you listen to crap recordings. Cerwin Vegas sound like solid gold comparatively for a lot of metal that sounds downright shiiit on most (all) audiophile speakers …. For example. 

I built both mercilessly revealing and golden glow systems in years past. Golden systems could play only certain recordings, mercilessly revealing system certain others. Choices of recordings played was often imperceptible, it would only be in the long term I'd notice the limited choices made. After having experienced both extremes long term, defects of both eventually become intolerable, at this point I sought  another path.

 

The problem is not that revealing is inherently merciless, rather revealing CAN be merciless if sound qualities such as timbre and/or harmonic development is lacking or unnatural. I do continue to seek maximum resolution/transparency, but the timbre, harmonic development  capabilities must be top notch as well. I'd evaluate my favorite flavor as being just the tiniest bit warm of neutral, can hear full potential of great recordings, allows vast majority of mediocre recordings to be enjoyable, even low end of mediocre very tolerable, poor should rightly remain in intolerable category.

 

In my case, SET amps, DHT preamp, high efficiency horn loudspeakers have been the magic elixir. I won't argue subjective pathways others take, all good in my book.

 

Another aspect of tubes I don't think has been brought up in this thread, is tube equipment usage in recording studios. Some of my favorite sound recordings are from the era of tube recording equipment. This was era of essentially live in studio recording, not all this multi track, recording individual players at separate times and patching together. Some of the old studios were wonderful sounding venues and the natural resonance and harmonic development of tube recording equipment provided wonderful recordings. So many of the best recordings of that era both wonderfully lush, resolving and transparent, have to play some of this stuff every listening session. I often then segue into 60's, 70's era SS recording equipment era, quite a different perspective! And then further segue into digital recording era, yet another perspective. All have unique inherent qualities, yet they still retain difference and hiearchies within those eras.My take is a good system should be able to provide an engaging listen with most recordings from all eras.

@sns

I often hear talk about bad recordings and good recordings, but what are the particular qualities that qualify a recording as bad or good for you?

Here are mine. I expect them to differ for others.

What bothers me most about a recording is bad tonal balance. Screechy violins or vocals. Scratchy vocals. Shrieky vocals. Booming or almost nonexistent bass. There are plenty of examples of such recordings, which is why I always have an EQ in my system.

Next comes lack of overall transparency, but that may be redundant, as it’s often caused by lack of information at the frequency extremes.

Imaging and sounstaging? I enjoy them when they are good, but lack of perfection rarely bothers me.