Eminent Technology 8b Speakers - Amp/wattage Recommendations


I recently purchased a nearly new pair of 8bs. I am now looking for an amplifier. 

My preference is tubes over SS.

The room is 23x15x10 feet dedicated for music. 

I like to play music fairly loud at times. 

I will likely biamp, meaning whatever tube amp I end up using will receive a high-pass filtered signal and drive only the mid and high freq panel drivers. 

I am aware that Bruce T recommends 75-200 watts. 

I am considering two options, (a) Quicksilver KT monos with KT150 tubes (100 watts) and (b) another amp by a boutique builder using 4 KT 120 per side and 120 watts. 

My preference is option (a), but worry that 100 watts is not sufficient. 

I would appreciate any real-world experience on how many watts is practically needed with the 8bs. Are they as power hungry as I think they are, or is 100 watts more than enough? 

Does bi-amping make a difference, meaning one can get away with using less watts since you are driving only the mids/high drivers and not the subs? 

Any feedback or suggestions from 8b users would be appricated. 

Thanks much! 

 

 

jwr159

@jwr159 apologize if I misunderstood, originally I thought you planned to bi-amp the LFT8B speakers alone, like this on the rear. Using the QSC amp with separate subs should give you plenty. This is similar to how I run my setup, with custom dual Scanspeak subs. Works great, the QS amps don’t have to work so hard, and low level volume listening is more enjoyable too.

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@russ69   I would assume that this would concatenate filters affecting not only attenuation, but also the slope dB/octave, unless filters are very far off crossover points to remove, for instance, lowest frequency (high energy) from tube amp.  I suspect that this might be OP's objective.  Either way it doesn't matter if sound is to his liking.

The plan is to use:

1.  a HP filter between my preamp and the QS amp, which will driver only the mid and high frequency panels. I am not sure of the filter frequency just yet, but probably somewhere in the 50-100Hz range. If I'm not mistaken the mid panel driver plays down to 100Hz. 

2. Use the on-board Xover on the 8s to handle the crossover between the mid and high frequency drivers; and 

3. the built-in DSP/crossover functionality in the QSC to drive my subs. . 

With the above arrangement, I believe the low frequency drivers on the 8b's will be eliminated from the equation altogether.

I assume if the QS amps does not have to amplify the low frequencies, I am hoping to get more bang out of those 100 watts. This a fair assumption? 

I would think it might be good assumption, but I'm not sure about tube amps.  It would be better to ask tube amp experts like atmasphere.

@atmasphere Ralph, could you chime in?  Does limitting low end allow to play louder?  I know that with some amps, like class D  Zobel network  limits power at high frequencies anyway.

Eminent Technology says "The LFT-8b is biampable.". So just ask the designer, the best way to do that.