Why Music Has Lost it’s Charms (Article)


I found this article while surfing the web tonight. If it’s already been posted I apologize.

 

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Coming back to the thread matter...

Like for music we can enjoy now thanks to internet, all the great movies of the last century...From an era where artist like Fellini were free...

We can enjoy movies from any country and be spared  from the worst of Hollywood cooking burger  factory...

This is on one side corporate destruction of art and on the other side we can enjoy true art in an easy way if we know where to look for...

Then my pessimism dont tell all the story...

Never in my life i enjoyed so great musicians in so great numbers...

Anyway financial capitalism is dying....We can hope....

 

 

@mahgister 

Thanks for sharing that video about Alan Mearns.  I just bought two of his CD's.  Too bad he doesn't have analog (LP) form for sale. . . 

Your perspectives about music and the global trends are quite interesting. . . I'm a Bach aficionado myself, with the trappings that come with that.  I'll have to look into the mathematical metaphor that music may represent in more detail. . . any pointers for researching that topic?
Thanks. 

That is a very good article, of course as an old timer I would consider it so. I well remember `Dark side of the moon` released when I was in high school. Along with Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep and many others we had a rich source of musical material to keep us happy. Buy even in those days there was a lot of dross on the radio. The difference was that there was investment in new and creative music.

Thanks for your kind words....

 

Music is an information hologram....Metaphorically and in real time....

I use music here in the MORE extensive general meaning of the word...

First: the first model of "Artificial consciousness" ( not artificial Intelligence here, the difference between A.I. statistical dynamical model and Anirban artificial brain is like the difference between a tool and a genuine brain using it ) use a "musical" set of tool, a musical geometry so to speak... Or time crystal fractals ladder of clocks ... Read his site to have an idea.... Anirban Bandyopadhyay....

https://www.nims.go.jp/nanophys6/Anirban%20Bandyopadhyay/site/index.htm

The books is this one, completely amazing genius with a take on consciousness which is techologically superior to anything i ever heard of....... "Nano brains"

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086Q43W37/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0

these videos introduce easily:

https://www.closertotruth.com/contributor/anirban-bandyopadhyay/profile

The writer is one if not the leader in in cycles and rythmic time geometry and information theory ...

His ideas were anticipated by a mathematician decade ago unknown to most, i read at the times, Charles Musès : Destiny and control in human systems. Studies in the interactive connectedness of time (chronotopology) (= Frontiers in systems research.). Kluwer-Nijhoff, Dordrecht/ Boston u. a. 1985

Anirban Bandyopadhyay theory, like Musès perspective is ultimately about musical synchronisation of all events explaining "life"....

In a complete different direction the great mathematician Alain Connes, father of non commutative geometry, explain the relation with time and music converging in his own way to Aniban theory from a complete different perspective...The deep meaning of prime numbers distribution and a musical interpretation of it...

But his theory is even more difficult than Anirban technological tools descriptions and his new non-algorithmic and non-Turing theory of brain/consciousness...

But the two reveal the breathtaking depth of vibrations and the music metaphorical and chronotopological meaning , Anirban Bandyopadhyay and Alain Connes the two geniuses, use the music of the prime numbers distribution at the CENTER of their theory, think about that a second.... 😁😊

You will fall of your chair understanding the meaning behind this fact trust me .... It will take time if you are new to this difficult subject matter though...


The third track is related to all works about unconscious and conscious cenesthesia in perception and interpretation of sounds meaning in music experience....Read about cenesthesia meaning research...
Also the fact that the vertical scales and horizontal chords are best described by Alain Connes non commutative geometry....

The mathematical/philosophical works of Ernest Ansermet the great french maestro about noetic qualitative logarythm and the way music is not a pure object but a position taken by a perspectival subject located in his own space give also a deep take on Occidental tonal history but i think the 1200 pages book is only in french...

 

@mahgister Thanks for sharing that video about Alan Mearns. I just bought two of his CD’s. Too bad he doesn’t have analog (LP) form for sale. . . Your perspectives about music and the global trends are quite interesting. . . I’m a Bach aficionado myself, with the trappings that come with that. I’ll have to look into the mathematical metaphor that music may represent in more detail. . . any pointers for researching that topic?
Thanks.

The Flynn effect is now reversing it’s course. Ie, that people are literally getting less intelligent. Literally.

perhaps the combination of things it takes to get to good music is taking this reversing effect and showing how bad it is, like a canary in the coal mine.

About a decade ago I finally decided that the effect that I saw was generalized enough and obvious enough that I was fairly confident that what the future seems to be holding..is a splitting into a definable two - of the human race. The actual beginnings of a homo superior vector vs a homo regressus vector. This, outside of all the other complexities of such an idea in analysis. (very complex mess, obviously, so debating it is difficult, at best). Eg, what does the end of the boomer years say about all of this? good luck measuring that...besides the complexities of coming up with good testable hypothesis and the like.

Re the Flynnn effect..it seems as if Idiocracy actually is on the record, now, as being a real thing at least with respect to the current course of humanity, in the now....

Does our social humane integrity end up painting us into a corner? What is even the question?