Upstream Bottlenecks, Experience, Opinions, Meitner Dac


Are there considerations regarding upstream components that may cause a bottleneck with the DA3? It has a streamer and reclocks. Yesterdays discussion on architecture was very helpful but are there other details, components that may need consideration fully realize the DA3 potential? PC to this DAC, Switch(s), ie Edison with built in LPS, LPS’s for Router, Modem, Additional clocking, Last leg Ethernet cable(8?), grounded? Lan filters. If all the upstream components could have impact, would the switch be the place to start? BTW, I have yet to purchase a new server, FWIW, now using highly modded Mac mini hard wired LPS. Thank you all, DaveH

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Hi @sns, I don’t think you mentioned any power conditioner for your streamer chain. You may already have it and just not mentioned it, but I think it’s worth mentioning here. I have my coaxial internet cable, modem, router, and switch (and TV) all plugged into a Furman PST-8 Power Station. I scored that device for only $120 new on eBay. Then my streamer and DAC are plugged into the two noise isolated "discrete symmetrical power" outlets on a Furman IT-Ref 15i conditioner that runs the rest of my gear. I haven’t tried a linear PS for the router, but this setup sounds great to me.

@gladmo I have BPT 3.5 Signature modified with Oyaide R1 and PorterPort AC receptacles, Jantzen Z Superior 1200V caps. This is balanced transformer based pc, my preference is for transformer pc's after auditioning many others over the years. With linear power supplies everything can be plugged into same pc, no back feed contamination with lps as there is with switching power supplies. Power cables used on each individual item important as well, includes all lps.

One of things we have all learned over time is that cables, dongles, filters, switches, linear power supplies, switch mode power supplies, power conditioners, power cable, dedicated lines, etc etc etc...they ALL do something. Device A with cable B and power supply C, when combined, make an amazing difference. Device D with with dongle E, when combined, sound amazing. Then, like we all HAVE to try....we combine Devices A, B, C, D, E and presto! It sucks.

 

There is no substitute for trying and there is no guarantee that if one is good five are better. Try things, make notes, decide if you like it and then, if its worth it. From some of the photos I’ve seen of some systems, if you tell me my room has to look like some of those rooms to get 2% more performance, I will pass. The most important thing, have fun and enjoy your music.

@sns You've got a great conditioner, just as I suspected! Do you mind sharing which lps you use on the router? Separate, right?  Also, you mentioned a few comments earlier in this discussion that you use a AQ Vodka from modem to router.  Have you experimented with using basic 5e patch cables there instead?  Find a significant diff?  

Thanks

Someone mentioned interest in a sub $300 LPS in another thread or forum and  zerozone was mentioned.   I’m taking a gamble and placed an order in for a Zerozone 100VA 12V Ultra Low Noise LPS HI-END Linear Power Supply from China, under $200 after shipping. eBay. For router use. Will power it with a shielded Signal Cable.

@ghasley , you are so correct, so many variables they could ultimately have a net negative effect. Lots to try and notes to take. Beware of analysis paralysis.