Ethernet - Analog/Digital Signal Clean Up


Curiosity got the better of me recently and I tried a pretty cheap tweak where I used two Fiber Optic converters between the eero access point and my Lumin U1 Mini streamer. Converted from copper Ethernet to fiber optic then back to copper and then into streamer using my Supra Cat8. 

I was pleasantly surprised with the improvements this change had brought into my system and now I am wondering if I can do better. One other aspect of the current configuration that I don’t like is the clutter - each unit comes with it’s own power supply and add to that a fiber optic cable. I already have a spider web of wires and am not looking to add to that. 

Objective is to have as much noise, RFI and EMI removed before it reaches the streamer. 

Seeking opinions on the following units from those who had tried them in their systems:

  1. English Electric Network Switch 8 (Silent Angel is pretty much the same thing)
  2. Uptone EtherREGEN (currently out of stock)
  3. Network Acoustics Eno (box or streaming system)

 

What is your experience with these units?

Anything else to add to the above list? 

 

Thanks in advance!

audphile1

Following the experience of someone on here (I forget who), I have tried the Eno connected directly from my Orbi satellite into the Zenith - ditching the TP-Link switch (with ifi power supply). And yes, very much so, the SQ was far better. Richer, more analogue, more dynamics, better rhythm.

Just one note of worry, though. With this configuration, several tracks just suddenly stopped - suggesting intermittent internet connection (streaming hires from Qobuz).  In fact, tracks stopping is more common than not.  The Zenith's web interface also struggles to download details of Qobuz playlists, for example

I’ve rebooted the Orbi and the Zenith but the issue returns. But very worrying, but also frustrating as the sound quality is just where I want it.

Has anyone else experienced this?

You'd think a high quality switch would lend lower noise floor to network vs router. If I could do without wifi I'd go with switch, but adding switch to router has not worked out well for me. KISS at work here?

 

Conundrum is theoretical advantages of adding more filters,etc which adds to complexity, vs most direct route.

“I cannot hear it in my system then it provides no value to me.”

@mitch2 

I couldn’t agree with you anymore. There are so many variables in play when it comes to digital streaming. No two setups are alike, so experimenting from plethora of options in switches, filters and other tweaks is the only way to know what works or doesn’t work in your system. In my experience, I found ENO filter to be way better on its own in terms of performance upgrade (again in my system) than many other options currently available in ENO’s price range.

This weekend, I plan to simplify further by moving my HD Plex LPS to power my modem and router then 45 feet of Cat 8 directly out of the router to the area where my system is and into the Gigafoilv4 (optical isolation) which will be powered by its own LPS, then the Network Acoustics streaming cable into the ENO and into my server.  The server uses the JCAT USB Card XE so I run USB from the server to may DAC.  Later, I will take out the Gigafoilv4 and try it with just the ENO.

Lps on modem is interesting! My present modem supplied by cable company, has internal power supply. perhaps I should look into new modem with external power supply. Powering router with lps was very worthwhile upgrade, I could see this as nice. upgrade.