What is the “World’s Best Cartridge”?


I believe that a cartridge and a speaker, by far, contribute the most to SQ.

The two transducers in a system.

I bit the bulllet and bought a Lyra Atlas SL for $13K for my Woodsong Garrard 301 with Triplanar SE arm. I use a full function Atma-Sphere MP-1 preamp. My $60K front end. It is certainly, by far, the best I have owned. I read so many comments exclaiming that Lyra as among the best. I had to wait 6 months to get it. But the improvement over my excellent $3K Mayijima Shilabi was spectacular-putting it mildly.

I recently heard a demo of much more pricy system using a $25K cartridge. Seemed to be the most expensive cartridge made. Don’t recall the name.

For sure, the amount of detail was something I never heard. To hear a timpani sound like the real thing was incredible. And so much more! 
This got me thinking of what could be possible with a different kind of cartridge than a moving coil. That is, a moving iron.

I have heard so much about the late Decca London Reference. A MI and a very different take from a MC. Could it be better? The World’s Best? No longer made.

However Grado has been making MI cartridges for decades. Even though they hold the patent for the MC. Recently, Grado came out with their assault on “The World’s Best”. At least their best effort. At $12K the Epoch 3. I bought one and have been using it now for about two weeks replacing my Lyra. There is no question that the Atlas SL is a fabulous cartridge. But the Epoch is even better. Overall, it’s SQ is the closest to real I have heard. To begin, putting the stylus down on the run in grove there is dead silence. As well as the groves between cuts. This silence is indicative of the purity of the music content. Everything I have read about it is true. IME, the comment of one reviewer, “The World’s Best”, may be true.
 

 

mglik

@nandric I said I leaned toward your assessment of the contributions, which was your questioning of how such offered evaluation can be attained and seen to be without contention. 

My own expressed thoughts on how such an evaluation can be attained, are not my attempts to interpret your pattern of thought, your queries are valid and from a perspective that is correctly aligned to the subject.

My own queries are more from the perspective of what are the requirements of the parameters needed to be put in place to qualify the assessments offered to be Bonafide and dependable.

Price of Cartridge and Price of System used for demonstration of such Cartridge seems to be the most important factor as the guideline. Under the guise of more outlay means more for your money.

I work on the Basis that certain products are priced, not as their production as a whole is reflected in their given value, but more that the Niche Market can ask for such a Value.

My experience, that I made known, is that I have been demonstrated Cartridges of substantial Value on Systems that are of a Substantial Value but was not left with an impression based on subjective evaluation, that I was being demonstrated a contender for a 'World's Best Cartridge'.

My own account of my experiences, suggest that when a Cartridge is demonstrated in a System, and the impact of that encounter is positive, inspiring and an attractor, being seen as worthwhile for aspiring to.

Then this encounter surely puts one nearer the place, where they can claim there is a contender for their Best Cartridge Experienced.

From my end, that is what really counts, is how an encounter has impacted on a person and how they are shaped by such an encounter, at some stage their need to search for further improvement will become less important when satisfying experiences are encountered and if need be, adopted into use. 

 

pindac, May I call your opproach ''holistic'' and my ''analitic'' . By you everything

is connected witth each other  while my approucs is reduction of complexity. 

Say reduction of grammar form to : X is P . In place of variable x one can put

whatever ''subject'' one want as well in the place of ''P'' ( aka predicate) as

''property'' or ''quality'' expressions. Try to construct an RELATIONAL STATEMENT

with this grammar form. What I mean is that  '''X is P'' is not suitable

for relational .statements which  imply more  subjects than one. Well comparing

cartridges are such ''many subjects'' statements. ''The best'' means the best

from many while quantifier  ALL ''shows'' the problem . Who knows ALL 

cartridges ever made? Even Raul with his +100 samples has chosen ADC 26

while owning also Jan Allearts ''formula I'' with many ''sans'' from Jspan..

The same result as empirical approach by dover. We don't know how many he

owns but we do know which he likes the most. I don't believe that his or Raul's choice is , say, ''VERY EXPENSIVE'' . So what is the relation beween price

and ''quality'' of sound? 

Claims that one selection is ubiquitously correct and are the precedent are precious.

From personal experience, most discoveries of a choice made/to be made, that proves to be satisfying and have more attraction over others, are intermittent or even fortuitous. 

The choices made by one, and the perceptions of the end experience, are not going to prove ubiquitous to all who choose. 

Lord this is so simple, It is the cartridge you are listening to. It is the only cartridge that matters. 

@nandric. You can say a lot of things about a cartridge without hearing it by virtue of it's design and quality of manufacture. The more experience you have the better.

No, you can not say what the cartridge sounds like but the purchasing decision is more frequently than not made without auditioning the cartridge in the purchaser's system. Not only this but there is wide variation on what "sounds good" means. Most audiophiles have no idea what they are listening too. They have no experience with measurement techniques that tell you what your system and room are doing and the variation between channels. What they think "sounds good" is just what they are use to hearing. Most audiophiles have never heard a system with state of the art imaging.