Long term listening is still the gold standard of audio evaluation. Short term evaluations often lead to errors but it's much harder to hold an inaccurate evaluation over the course of many listening sessions and sometimes it takes many hours to find the faults of the playback system.
Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
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Amir said: I tested a PS audio directstream DAC. It measured poorly in low frequencies. After a bunch of back and forth with claims you believe in, it turns out that for cost reasons they used low quality transformers that produced more distortion! Multi-thousand dollar DAC used low quality parts... Don't be so naive. All manufacturers have price points. If you do not like the sound of their DAC, move on. Buy something that sounds better to you or tear them all apart until you find one built like you want it. Danny, a real audio and measurement guy tests and tears down speakers costing thousands of dollars and shows us the low cost parts inside. The speaker was built to have a certain sound and performance for its price point. It is not a gotcha game. It is the realities of business. Danny also designs upgrade kits for these speakers that one can buy if they are interested in improving the sound. Every piece of gear has room for improvement no matter the cost point. Something more useful might be durability testing. HALT testing (Highly accelerated life testing) on gear to find the weak points and define the useful life of the gear would be interesting- but costly.
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Now addressing this bit in OP:
How on earth did this pass as an argument? "Some of the posters" listen to this and some other music? What if they did? That makes them less of a music lover and audiophile? The tastes of our membership runs the gamut just like it does in any forum. We have a long list pinned to our home page:
It has nearly 16,000 tracks/albums people love! Clearly OP has no idea about our music preferences any more than he does about every other thing he claimed there. |
@amir_asr , I saw the pic of your system, can you comment on why you chose those speakers? I know they must measure nice but a lot of speakers measure nice. Why those? Are you here to discuss audio or throw rocks at the OP like a "miscreant"? |
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