Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
I understand that to be true. I'm not a fan of A-B testing. I think you have to optimize each setup and listen for a long time. In the end you'll be able to learn which system you prefer but I wouldn't say you'll know which one is better, too many variables. Unless there are gross differences. |
I had a boss once decades ago that was obsessed with data. He just wanted to test and test. It didn't seem to go anywhere. He wanted more data and just could not finalize anything. Testing for the sake of testing is pointless. It has to mean something. Compare the data to listening tests or what? Measurements by themselves mean nothing. But to conclude something does not sound good because the measurements say it doesn't is circular reasoning. That is because the key ingredient to how it sounds is to listen to it. Measurements are a means to an end. How it sounds is the end- the final word on the subject. Kind of like the old adage, " There comes a time in the life of any project when it is necessary to shoot the engineer and start production." |
True Story: As a curiosity test - I helped a close friend who paid for Danny’s service to analyze one of his speakers, test it, to design and layout all new crossovers, parts, connectors. In the process the speakers were converted from a 2.5 way to a 3-way crossover layout on a 20 year old speaker. All drivers were re-coned in the process. I use to build speakers for a living and designed a few myself, fwiw. The Grand Mozart speaker I’m referring to is featured on one of Danny’s videos. About 1/5 the cost of a new comparable pair. Sounds notably better than stock. Buddy is super happy with the service, design, and parts. Turned out really nice, more musical too. Buddy is quite proud of himself taking the chance to test out Danny first hand. Nothing better than the measured value of a happy customer.
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Once more, he does NOT listen to any speaker he upgrades. Ever! He says this in videos from time to time. Even if he does not, watch one of his upgrade videos. All he shows are crude before and after frequency response measurements and that is it. You are supposed to trust him that the sound got better. As to his upgrades making sense, they do most of the time from technical point of view. But not remotely on cost basis. He also detests EQ which can do the same thing for free. As member said, follow the money. EQ doesn't make him money so he doesn't like it. What proof he provides? He just knows that it doesn't. |
@amir_asr , I think Danny gets lots of customers who post a lot of good reviews, is a fair businessman, and a good communicator. Are you still upset with him over that falling out you two had? I saw him very sincerely reach out to you on his channel, can't you let it go by now? |
