@invalid "You know what blind ... tests gave us..."
Yes, Bose. Dr. Bose's graduate thesis was blind testing and removing frequencies his subjects didn't hear were missing.
Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
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@tonywinga +1 "This comment by Amir regarding speaker upgrades: As to his upgrades making sense, they do most of the time from technical point of view. But not remotely on cost basis. He also detests EQ which can do the same thing for free.” -there is a pulse speaker response test available to prove Amir is wrong +1 "He is in over his head”- yep |
I used to know guys that could identify cars by their sound. They were into street racing and knew all the angles but certain makes had certain sound characteristics that couldn't be masked by any mods. Same goes for reviewers way back in the early days of CD players. A few with the "golden ears" could walk right into a listening session and state which DAC chip was being used without looking at it. It was more primitive back then so the field of DAC chips was quite narrow but they could "hear" the chip and it's attendant sound characteristics. All the best, |
@amir_asr thank you for your reply. Here is what you said: With other classes of devices, impairments get very small to non-existent. What devices specifically? I simply don’t have the time or resources for this type of testing. So measurements plus psychoacoustic analysis stand in as substitute. I take that as you basically back fit the test to get the outcome you want. Why not outsource it to a third party and not have to guesstimate it? Stuff subjectivists report are like fantasy to me. I understand that you are not able to measure your fantasies and so do you discount the subjective experience of your customers? Why are you selling audio equipment and trying to post reviews (albeit even though you state you lack the time and resources to be as thorough as possible) on a topic which you seem unable to connect with which is as subjective as a listening experience.
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@amir_asr "Is your profile public somewhere?” I am your ASR-reader-(ex)customer, not adversary, thus sorry I don’t think you need to know details about my professional life. The question in this thread was about your professional reviewer credibility, not mine, Amir. |
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