Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

I was more an objectivist long before ASR existed so it isn’t surprising to say I have learned a lot more from ASR than this one but I never really considered Audigon as a site to learn but a site to buy and sell and shoot the breeze on forums. Some of the discussions here are interesting but some are outright bizarre, for instance, colored fuses, exotic cabling, magic mats in mains panels to name a few. At any rate adios.

ASR can’t be bothered to listen to everything they measure. For that reason alone, I can’t be bothered with ASR and its agenda.

I like the threads here more than most other sites. Extremely seasoned contributors who openly share their wisdom without making you feel embarrassed or shamed. I don’t find that open mindedness and support anywhere else the way I find it here.

@laoman 

However many of us do take the line that dacs do sound different and that perhaps a wonderfully measuring dac  pushed by Amir does not sound that great. 

I was one of them who got banned because of this subject.  Amir seldom conducted listening test and it is no wonder every Dac sounds the same to him and his members.  There is no measurements existed today for such important sound traits as soundstages.  So without listening test there is no way to objectively and comprehensively assess the sound quality.  For example, I have purchased two Topping Dac based on the wonderful measurements BUT return / sell both because of the lack of soundstage depth and separation.  Some reviewers I trusted also commented about the Topping flagship D90SE sounds flat as well.

Also I think Amir's iron fisted approach of throwing out everyone who disagrees with him is pretty rude and shows the sort of person he is. I feel sorry for him ...

Same here but I won't describe him "iron fisted".  Maybe people outside the third world do not understand the gravity of the issue of censoring speech / opinions but I could tell you what he has done is not acceptable.  I have no regret of being banned other than feeling sorry for him.  I could still discuss technical subject with folks from several smaller forums and acquire satisfactory / constructive responses.

@juanmanuelfangioii has most advocated for censorship on these pages. The only one who spoke out against him is @prof and I. Others were very upset Amir was here. It seems censorship was just fine when it was censorship of those who disagreed.

I will put it in perspective so that some here can understand. There is an earth sciences site and astrophysics site. A flat earth believer goes to that site and claims the earth is flat. His evidence? His eyes clearly show it is flat. The members ask for more evidence. He provides none and keeps insisting his eyes don’t lie. They quickly turf him. Many of you who got turfed at ASR were flat earth followers visiting a science site. What did you expect?   This has nothing to do with free speech.