Good read: why comparing specifications is pointless

OMG people... Stop Feeding the Trolls!

@ticat OMG people... Stop Feeding the Trolls!

This thread went south a long time ago.

@kota1 

Almost all reviews include a list of the writers reference system components, the test conditions the equipment was used in, the content played during the review, comparisons to equipment from competitors, and possibly measurements.

When it matters, I do the same: 

The Lyngdorf is the black box sitting on my (unused currently) Mark Levinson No 532 power amplifier. For those of you complaining about the cost of the Lyngdorf TDAI-3400, the 523 costs $20,000 by itself!  Admittedly it has 400 watts using 8 ohm and probably twice as much over 4 ohm so much more powerful than the Lyngdorf. Still, it is just an amplifier.

My everyday amplifiers are the two Mark Levinson No 53 monoblocks flanking the Revel Salon 2 speakers which were used for this testing. Those beasts have 500 watts into 8 ohm and 1000 watts into 4 ohm. In listening tests, the Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 got plenty loud although I had it pretty close to 0 dB at times. Again, this is a huge space so it takes fair bit of power to fill it and shake my seat. 

I test my near-field/desktop products and there, equipment is listed as well:

Iconoclast CLR Cable Listening Tests
I used two setups for listening tests: headphone and main 2-channel system:

Headphone Listening: source was a computer as the streamer using Roon player to RME ADI-2 Pro ($2K) acting as a DAC & headphone amplifier, driving my Dan Clark Stealth headphone ($4K). I started listening with Iconoclast cable. Everything sounded the same as I was used to. I then switched to WBC cable. Immediately I "heard" more air, more detail and better fidelity. This faded in a few seconds though and the sound was just as it was with the Iconoclast.

For my main system, I used a Topping D90SE driving the Topping LA90 which in turn drove my Revel Salon 2 speakers. I picked tracks with superb spatial qualities to judge the usual "soundstage." I again started with Iconoclast XLR TPC cable. I was once again blown away how good my system sounds. 

 I don't get to enjoy it often enough given how much time I spend working at my desk. Anyway, after a while I switched to WBC cable. Once again, immediate reaction was that the sound was more open, bass was a bit more tight, etc. This too passed after a few seconds and everything sounded the same again.

Really, all of these protests could be avoided if you had spent just a few minutes reading how and why I test things.  There is incredibly scrutiny of what I do by members at ASR and industry at large.  You have to be far more prepared to find a criticism that can stick.

@amir_asr

You are the one that decided to brand your website as "science". You admittedly are neither a scientist nor have a "lab"/studio/listening room that follows well established specs (see Toole, Kota1, Abbey Road, Sony, and Dolby Institute in the above posts).

At this point you have two choices. Align yourself with the "science"/specs like the Toole, the Kota, et al. or make a very simple change to your brand acronym.

Currently you are branded ASR

Just change the first letter (A) to the very next letter in the alphabet and I think you’ll nail it.

Good luck with your website and I am taking the good counsel of my fellow members, no more feeding your trolls, bye!

@kota1

You are the one that decided to brand your website as "science". You admittedly are neither a scientist nor have a "lab"/studio/listening room that follows well established specs (see Toole, Kota1, Abbey Road, Sony, and Dolby Institute in the above posts).

The website is not called "science."  It is Audio Science Review.  Audio Science and engineering is our guiding light, not what random poster says on a website.  We review and digest audio science and use it to our advantage to build superbly sounding systems without wasting on nonsense that does nothing for the performance of your system.

We can see the sharp difference in the way you blindly ran an automated EQ system that butchered the bass response in room.  Every frequent reader of ASR forum would have been able to school you on proper target to say nothing of the formal study by Dr. Toole. These are mistakes that readers of ASR either don't make or are given immediate help to fix. 

Good luck with your website and I am taking the good counsel of my fellow members, no more feeding your trolls, bye!

I didn't think that would ever happen!  Thank you for finally letting go of my pant legs.  😀 As for luck, thankfully we don't need at ASR as there is strong appeal to both audiophiles and members of the industry to read and view objective and science based information about audio. We have more reach than this site and stereophile combined.  You should wonder what the rest of the world knows that you don't.....