Toroidal vs EI power amps any difference.

@jaytor - exactly.  As a manufacturer we use toroidal as we feel they have less noise.  When I met the Luxman representative about 5 years ago, he told me that Luxman switched to EI as they felt in their tests they performed better.  We have not done a comparison but in our experience we use toroidal in our tube components.

Happy Listening.

My current solid state DAC utilizes a toroidal transformer (And it sounds wonderful). I’m currently having a new tube DAC built for me that will have 3 separate toroidal transformers (Also 2 chokes) so a fair amount of iron. Both my tube preamplifier and tube mono blocks utilize “double C-core” transformers and they sound wonderful.

I suspect that like virtually all things concerning audio the major influencing factors are quality of construction and execution. I believe that in the right hands, all of the various types of transformers can contribute to excellent sound quality performance. It is however interesting to explore why different builders chose to use a particular type of transformer.

Charles

Not exactly on topic, but is there a downside to OTL’s , Futterman, D. Berning?

Sorry, the question was sufficiently answered in 2008 post titled “How does OTL amp get its power?” Thanks 

Toroids are prone to mechanical buzzing, vibrating, when fed from AC mains with DC on the Line. Especially large VA Toroids used in power amps. For smaller VA toroids you can buy a plug in DC blocker that will filter out the DC on the mains and in most cases stops the loud mechanical buzzing, vibrating, sound.

Designers like Pass and Bryston install DC blocker filters in their equipment that use Toroid power transformers. Many do not... I see some ARC equipment is now using Toroid power transformers. I imagine ARC is installing DC blocking filters in the equipment.

Unless Krell has changed their design recently they do not install DC blocking filters in their equipment. There are a few threads on Agon about big power Krell Amps that have Toroid power transformers that mechanically buzz, vibrate, quite loudly. The owner tries a plug in DC blocker but it doesn’t stop the loud buzzing.

I believe the problem is the plug in DC blocker is not designed to handle the higher draw of the big VA toroid transformer(s) in the amps.

EI type powers transformers as a rule are not affected by DC on the Line.

DC on the Line:

https://sound-au.com/articles/xfmr-dc.htm