Dylan's Time Out of Mind remix is Stunning

cd381, I agree with all you say here.  

Oh Mercy is another Dylan/DL record that I just love.  The sound on Man In the Long Black Coat is outrageously great, such a mood-setter.  

I guess I'm simply happy to have both versions of Time Out Of Mind, and love each of them.  I can put either on and revel in the greatness of the songs, the music, the sounds, the artistry.  

bd, I find it impossible to accept Dylan being intimidated by anyone in a studio.

@bdp24

Sonic "finger-painting", to my ears!

BTW, the notes accompanying the 2 cd Fragments set quote Dylan regarding the contrast between Lanois' approach to producing and Dylan’s own.

@cd318

"Sonic Muck" was the only phrase I could come up with to describe what I hear.

This is an esthetic response, not an engineering/technical assessment.

I wasn’t referring to the fidelity of the recording but to the "artistically murky" "sound painting" that resulted from Lanois’ manipulations of what was heard in the studio, pre-production

How else can I put it...?

OK, if what the musicians played was "clean water", then Lanois' manipulations turned it to "dirty water". It makes little difference to me how well he polished the "bottle" . It's still "dirty water" to me. 

@stuartk 

That's cool, we all have different tastes in production.

For example I could never stand what Steve Lillywhite did to the Pogues third album, If I Should Fall from the Grace of God. For sure it sounded clean and tidy, but it also sounded small and squeezed and squashed.

It just wasn't the Pogues and it just didn't breathe.

A massive disappointment after the Elvis Costello produced Rum, Sodomy and the Lash 2nd LP that was everything it's successor wasn't.

I guess production style, like guitar playing is mostly a matter of taste. Some like Hank B Marvin some prefer Hendrix. Some might even like both.

I'm sure that this remix will become an interesting adjunct to the original, but it's hardly likely to replace it, is it?

@rpeluso 

I find it impossible to accept Dylan being intimidated by anyone in a studio.

Me neither.

Virtually right from the start of his recording career, like the Beatles were, he's been very much his own man. The other great thing is that he does seem to care about sound quality and he's forever chasing that perfect sound in his head.

His comments from a few years back about the large sonic losses from studio to CD/LP were interesting too.

I wonder if he still feels the same way today?

@stuartk: The Standells certainly liked dirty water ;-) .