@garebear - again personally, I don't care at all who plays, sings, or raps what. I don't care if anybody is classically trained or not trained at all. All I care about is the end result; the song itself. Other folks have other criteria as to what they like.
50 years of Hip Hop- How Come?
Having been a music fan for over 50 years, it’s been fun to see all the different musical genres that have come and gone in popular music.
In the the 50s it was Rock n Roll. Then in the 60s we had Psychedelia, in the 70s Punk, in the 80s New Wave, in the 90s Grunge. It was always interesting to see how music changed into the next new thing.
At the latest Grammy awards, which I did not see, there was a segment called 50 years of hip hop.
I’ve personally never been a big fan of the genre, there are some songs I have liked, but that’s ok. Everyone has their tastes. What I am surprised about is Hip Hops longevity. It just seems like for the last 25 years a lot of music hasn’t really changed much. There has been no " next new thing"as far as I can tell.
How Come? Anyone feel the same way or care to comment. Am I just getting old??
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I like what I like and feel no need to rationalize nor apologize for 'deviant taste'. 😏 Halfway to 72, better condition than I deserve to be, considering taking up a less 'emphatic' version of shuffle dancing to maintain that. ;)
Not black...'white', but prefer 'beige'....more accurate, anyway...*G* Going to the symphony to absorb some piano on Saturday, but will likely de-rez later with some loudness and shake off seat stasis.... A little Tina ought to do the trick, Slick....;)
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@garebear sorry, i failed to mention any of those artists you pointed out. because they're not. Please read more carefully. Also, your label of "typical lyrics and thumping noises" sounds like what Boomers' parents labeled rock. I guess getting old has the same cultural myopia no matter what generation you belong to. And to @curtdr 's point about hiphop and rap being race related; well, it is to a large extent. Rap morphed into a language of social protest when PE came on the scene in 84 and really accelerated with NWA's social commentary starting in 1988. The art form is inextricably linked with social and political commentary across the globe; Balen in Nepal, Sendata in the Phillipines, or Ukraine's Shevchenko. Just as rock was the art of protest 60 years ago, so has hiphop and rap become the same. It's just, as @perkri wrote, Black Americans have been subject to marginalization far more than other populations. Including, I assume, most Audiogoners. |
Very good comment, @simao The silly stereotyping of Rap music (as in the quote that you included) is a dead giveaway of the cultural myopia to which you refer. There are countless examples of Rap that shatter such stereotypes, and I will offer one that does so on a variety of levels: Anthony Joseph. Not only is the music that Joseph produces (at times in collaboration) often very different from stereotypical Rap, but he teaches creative writing at the University of London (as in England), has published at least four volumes of poetry (which clearly inform his music), and a novel. Readers should have a listen to TIME, which he produced in collaboration with the excellent NY-based American bassist and singer Meshell Ndegeocello. |
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